Beginners' club - Candlestick analysis

4xpipcounter

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Murthy, my TL's also remove subjectivity. They are drawn from the dip/ peak to the swing low/ hi.

Tom DeMark is a little different inasmuch that he teaches when a new swing is made, then the TL is drawn from swing1 to swing 2. He also teaches to trade the break as price will head to a projectionary.
Many people like that way. I will never say it is the wrong way, but (And what do you expect here?) I like my way better.
(At this point, I would urge anyone to try both ways, then you determine for you which way is best.)

The reason I like my way better is because, you are not trading the break with my TL's, so you are not going to get whiplashed. Once the TL is broken, then we are waiting for the correction back to the point of the break, while the TL contains, and then enter the trade. It will go deeper or higher than the point of the original break.
With my TL's the only time they needs to be readjusted is when the exception happens, such as a break and then the candle moves back under or over the cloud. That would be defined at the candle close and not in the middle of its movement. A huge difference!
Also Tom's TD lines (As he calls them.) does contain the predictable qualities mine has.

Those are the differences, but again, I urge anyone experimenting to try his and try mine, then you decide which is best for you

The nice thing here is you will get answers to your questions and ongoing dialogues without paying for a seminar.
I am very much acquainted with Tom's TL's and I would invite any other dialogues concerning it, or even a comparison of mine and his methodology. I'll do my best to be objective.

BTW, my TL's do not focus on just history. Getting back to Timepass's question, if you drift 2 miles (figure of speech) from the TL, it does not matter. There will be a noticeable swing on the lower TF's The one where price drifted so far from, all you need to do is watch for it, keep the TL there, then notice the fantastic action you get once it is broken. Also, once it is hit, if it is not broken, then you can notice the strong containment it has. Eventually all TF's, when drawn from the peak/ dip to the swing high/ low will almost invariably be corrected. Look what happened to Nifty as I identified at Nifty50 Trends. The DOWN TL needed 4 months to correct, but eventually it happen as circa 5370 was hit.

Any rate, if you'd like, I look forward to further dialogues on the subject.


Dear Mr Paul,

I am sure you must have gone through DeMark's trendlines also? How do you
feel about them?

These two things appear to be somewhat interesting:

- that they eliminate the subjectivity in drawing a trendline

- that they focus on the recent price action, and ignore the history.

I would like to hear what you felt about them, since you have your own
method of drawing the trendlines.
 

murthyavr

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Dear Paul,

Thanks for the detailed reply. You are always willing to explain things, though
it does cost your time!

Before I ask you any further questions, let me study your way of drawing TLs
in detail and let me have a feel of it. Then I will come back to you for a quick
explanation of things where I do not understand.

Thanks again..
 

4xpipcounter

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You are very welcome, Murthy. Just consider it a service from someone who loves being here and loves what he is doing, rather than time being taken.
There are times when I do run out of time, but I've posted to let readers know when I'm behind, and that is rare.

LOL, my trades are up and my platform is full. Either I can play video games or have some fun here.


Dear Paul,

Thanks for the detailed reply. You are always willing to explain things, though
it does cost your time!

Before I ask you any further questions, let me study your way of drawing TLs
in detail and let me have a feel of it. Then I will come back to you for a quick
explanation of things where I do not understand.

Thanks again..
 
You are very welcome, Murthy. Just consider it a service from someone who loves being here and loves what he is doing, rather than time being taken.
There are times when I do run out of time, but I've posted to let readers know when I'm behind, and that is rare.

LOL, my trades are up and my platform is full. Either I can play video games or have some fun here.
i envy tat paul! :mad:

TIME! - part of the reason why i wanna make it big on this as a career.
 

adityasaraf007

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Larsen & Toubro - 5min:

Hi Paul Sir.... This is L&T's today's 5min chart.... Once again we have a Bullish 1-2-3 followed by a Bearish 1-2-3.... Bearish one is coming after a good Uptrend..... If this bearish one plays out then, we should be able to get a good move out of it.... Would update this for you tomorrow... :)

Just one question.... If it breaks the high of the Bullish one, would you play this on the Long side... :)

 

4xpipcounter

Well-Known Member
Don't let that be a motivation to make it big in this career, as it will come in time.

The chief motivating factor you need now is to put in the time that is needed to learn a methodology that you know in your heart of hearts is the absolute best for you.


i envy tat paul! :mad:

TIME! - part of the reason why i wanna make it big on this as a career.
 

4xpipcounter

Well-Known Member
Adit, I would play it either way, but you fully understand, as I can tell, which is going to be the best setup provided it plays out.

Just looking at you chart, if the downside is broken, I would think minimum objective would be 1302, and it will happen quickly.


Larsen & Toubro - 5min:

Hi Paul Sir.... This is L&T's today's 5min chart.... Once again we have a Bullish 1-2-3 followed by a Bearish 1-2-3.... Bearish one is coming after a good Uptrend..... If this bearish one plays out then, we should be able to get a good move out of it.... Would update this for you tomorrow... :)

Just one question.... If it breaks the high of the Bullish one, would you play this on the Long side... :)

 

4xpipcounter

Well-Known Member
BTW, if 1302 is broken, you could see the very bottom at 1210 getting hit. That could also be a rapid move.

Considering I am viewing this by price action only, can you give me an update on this market.


Adit, I would play it either way, but you fully understand, as I can tell, which is going to be the best setup provided it plays out.

Just looking at you chart, if the downside is broken, I would think minimum objective would be 1302, and it will happen quickly.
 

adityasaraf007

Well-Known Member
BTW, if 1302 is broken, you could see the very bottom at 1210 getting hit. That could also be a rapid move.

Considering I am viewing this by price action only, can you give me an update on this market.
Do you want some Ichi charts on it.... Okay... wait.... I would post its Weekly, Daily, 4 hour, 1 hour charts... :)

Give me 5mins...
 

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