BollingerBands

Did Bollinger Bands help you?

  • Yes

    Votes: 239 77.9%
  • No

    Votes: 68 22.1%

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    307

columbus

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Columbus, that's why I mentioned something to the effect of plotting the 20 and 28 on your demo account. 28 may seem to wide, but it takes into account the full cycle (Which sometimes can be up to 32 and even 34.). The 20 has a lot of action with the candles riding on the upper or lower bands, which, IMO, renders the bands useless.

Also, I prefer the 28,3 over the 28,2, because 3 sigma is more extreme and less likely to be hit, which renders a better trading opportunity.

Attached, are a couple of charts of the GBP/USD. One with the 28,3, and the other with the default, 20,2. The rule with the 28,3 is to wait for the break from the band, then enter going the opposite direction, and wait for at least the mean to be hit. Or, if the extremity is exceeded, then wait for the candle opposite the direction it is traveling in (E.g--Bear candle in an uptrend.), then enter the trade.

Also, notice how much more stable the 28 is. This is because of the measure of the trend, itself. The 20 oscillates all over because it does not account for the entire movement of the whole trend.
If there are too many candles accounted for, then it does not oscillate enough. In other words, it is too stable (e.g-plot the 100).
I believe in using the BB's, you want an indicator that will measure the movement of a trend once it has gotten to an extreme condition, so you can place a trade going the opposite direction in order to optimize the most profit from it.

BTW, nice charts in showing the normal distribution of the SD's. There is one slight difference. There is a greater percentage of sigma 1 and sigma 2 being hit, because this is a constant move SD. It is not arbitrary data, as an example, the height of all men in a classroom. So, the 68% ( 1 sigma), 95% (2 sigma), and 97% (3 sigma) will be much less. That is easy to test. Just plot 100 candles, then add up the times the 1'2, 2's, and 3's are hit.
4xpipcounter,
Good points mentioned you.
As far NIFTY goes BB(20,2) is defacto standard.
I think FOREX needs BB(28,3).
There 2 ways to change the width of the bands.Take a higher simple average
20,28,.....Or increase the Time Frame.
Certainly I will keep in mind BB(28,3).
 
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is it release on every friday or thursday ?
what is the latest figure?
 

Raju

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Columbus,

Had a query ...

Suppose I want to trade 1 min chart ..so how much on higher timeframe should I look for Trend ..3 min,5min,15,hourly ?

Suppose I want to trade 3 min chart ..so how much on higher timeframe should I look for Trend ..5 min,10min,30,hourly ?

How to calculate ?


Raju
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
Columbus,

Had a query ...

Suppose I want to trade 1 min chart ..so how much on higher timeframe should I look for Trend ..3 min,5min,15,hourly ?

Suppose I want to trade 3 min chart ..so how much on higher timeframe should I look for Trend ..5 min,10min,30,hourly ?

How to calculate ?


Raju
Hi Raju,

As far as Bollinger Bands go,I found 1min and 2 min are quite NOISY.Candles
will touch the bands quite often.But in initial stages they are OK.For getting
TREND ,5 min is OK.More than 5min the width of Bands in LARGE and targets
of often reached.I think anything between 3~6 is good.

If you are talking in general,then the set-up used on one day may not helpful
on other days.
 
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Bollinger bands can be devastating if you use them to scalp with. The cycliality is measured correctly, but just as you mentioned, it is the noise you don't want to deal with.


Hi Raju,

As far as Bollinger Bands go,I found 1min and 2 min are quite NOISY.Candles
will touch the bands quite often.But in initial stages they are OK.For getting
TREND ,5 min is OK.More than 5min the width of Bands in LARGE and targets
of often reached.I think anything between 3~6 is good.

If you are in general,then the used on one day may not helpful on other days.
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
The other day ,my account is locked,so posting Nifty-Positional data now.
EOD=17.1.11 NIFTY chart of last 7 months

 

columbus

Well-Known Member
HI 4Xpipcounter,

In continuation to our previous chat , I am posting this data.



Dark bands pertain to BB(20,2) and Light Bands to BB(28,3).
As you can see I feel nifty follows BB(20,2) whereas may be FOREX follow
the other.
 
Columbus, you're point is valid, and proves your success in trading Nifty.
My specialty is forex, and I understand the cycles perfectly in forex, which is why I presented as an overture the 28.3 setup.
With the accuracy of your setup, it is my understanding you could almost use the BB's as a standalone.
I'm curious what your thoughts are concerning the longer term for Nifty. I applied my actual methodology to the pair, and could see while it was around 6200 that the fall was very predictable. The pullback it is undergoing today was also predictable. 5900 in containment, and a fall to circa 5088, maybe lower, is what I'm seeing.
Since I've been on this forum, I've noticed many following this market, which is why I decided to pull out my chart and follow along.
I can tell you are astute in your observations, which is why I was asking what you think.


HI 4Xpipcounter,

In continuation to our previous chat , I am posting this data.



Dark bands pertain to BB(20,2) and Light Bands to BB(28,3).
As you can see I feel nifty follows BB(20,2) whereas may be FOREX follow
the other.
 
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Hi Vinst. I thought about that, but my methodology does not pertain to this thread, and I wanted to be respectful of it.
There are more obviations that just what appears on the chart. Attached is the weekly, but the monthly even confirms this move all the more, but does not have enough data on my chart to properly show my point.
The monthly chart is showing an extreme stochastic divergent pattern. It has already crossed, and still shows plenty of momentum left to thrust a move south.
The 2 red TL's on the weekly have been drawn off the monthly, and the top TL has already been broken, which indicates the uptrend is over.
There is solid momentum and plenty of room for the move south on the weekly, and the top of the cloud is 5088. At that point the weekly stochastics should be tired, and ready to reverse. That point would be a decision point, as it could be a correction, only, that will last 1-4 weeks, or a complete reversal.
Looking at the monthly, it is showing over the next few months, there is potential for a drop to circa 4700.
After the sharp drop, the market would be due for a correction, and this is why I talked about 5900 earlier as being containment. That is the circa area of the bottom of both the 4-hour and daily clouds. I figure it will hold because the trend has reversed, in accordance with my observation above.
The observation above is my opinion, but I am highly confident, because my methodology has proven itself over the years. My methodology can be applied to any market, even though this is the first time I have looked at Nifty.

4xpip,

can you post your chart showing 5088 on nifty?

regards
vin
 
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