BollingerBands

Did Bollinger Bands help you?

  • Yes

    Votes: 239 77.9%
  • No

    Votes: 68 22.1%

  • Total voters
    307

saivenkat

Well-Known Member
Hi Saivenkat,

Yes , immediately after the bands are pierced by amount 2~4 points.
In case by chance if the order goes wrong NEVER PLACE ANOTHER
ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order.

Columbus bhai, I could not understand what you mean by In case by chance if the order goes wrong NEVER PLACE ANOTHER
ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order.


Could you please elaborate on it?
Thanks and regards

Saivenkat:):)
 

saivenkat

Well-Known Member
Columbus sir,

Good morning, Yep, again i come up with another query to you.




Sir in this chart, suppose you go long at 5304 levels, and when the upper BB is hit near 5320 levels, what would you do at that moment as a intraday trader sir?( those which i marked in red circles)

1) Will you exit at that point of time,as UPPER BB is pierced and go short?
2) Or will you be using trailing stops. If so in where exactly is advisable to put our stops, for example in this case.

Regards
Saivenkat.:)
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
Columbus sir,

Good morning, Yep, again i come up with another query to you.




Sir in this chart, suppose you go long at 5304 levels, and when the upper BB is hit near 5320 levels, what would you do at that moment as a intraday trader sir?( those which i marked in red circles)

1) Will you exit at that point of time,as UPPER BB is pierced and go short?
2) Or will you be using trailing stops. If so in where exactly is advisable to put our stops, for example in this case.

Regards
Saivenkat.:)
Hi SaiVenkat,

At each circled positions, I will keep ADDING a SHORT position.
As I mentioned in this thread many times working with EOD chart is
different from a LIVE chart ,because in LIVE chart we have data on the
LEFT side of our ENTRY but not RIGHT side.But on EOD chart the case is
different.
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
Columbus bhai, I could not understand what you mean by In case by chance if the order goes wrong NEVER PLACE ANOTHER
ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order.


Could you please elaborate on it?
Thanks and regards

Saivenkat:):)

Hi SaiVenkat,

This I will explain with a example of today.

Say at 5322 ,the candle pierced top band.So we go SHORT at 5322.
Market went down as predicted till 5316,suddenly it went up by 8
points (5316+8=5324) to hit the top band once again.So do not place
another order at juncture ,because the difference is just 2 points (5324-5322).After few candles the market was at 5328.Place an SHORT order here.
I am mentioning events between 1140-1250 today.

The process of ADDING depends on the amount of time left for the closure
of market.
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
BB(20,2) of nifty futures on time frame 4,6min are presented below.

Go long when Red+Green candles pierce the bottom band and wait for 15minutes
for confirmation after taking position, otherwise come out with stoploss

Go short when Green+Red candles pierce the top band and wait for 15minutes
for confirmation after taking position , otherwise come out with stoploss

Otherwise continue with TREND if candles graze(ride) TOP/BOTTOM
bands.

 

saivenkat

Well-Known Member
Columbus bhai, I could not understand what you mean by In case by chance if the order goes wrong NEVER PLACE ANOTHER ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order.

Could you please elaborate on it?
Thanks and regards

Saivenkat:):)
Sir, Thanks again for patiently responding to my queries, and i know sir, that i am disturbing you a lot with my silly doubts, but i feel no other alternative than asking you directly sir.

I agree with you sir, during the LIVE MARKET data is on the LEFT side of the entry, we don't know what could be the next move. It is in this context sir, i am still not clear.

Sir, now i place before you how i would have traded in this context.

1) Since the upper BB is pierced on the first occasion i would have gone short and put a SL
2) Immediately the market has moved up and my STOP LOSS WOULD BE HIT. My trade is finished.


Now my doubts are:


A) My order goes wrong, and you told "NEVER PLACE ANOTHER ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order, if it goes wrong" what does this statement mean to me now, how should i react? Can i take that, i must not execute another buy/sell order immediately after that wrong trade?

B) Sir, today you told that, you will keep adding short positions, that is again go short when the upper BB was pierced for the second time?

Sir, Does not this appear to look contrary " never place another order in the vicinity of the first order goes wrong"

Sir please clarify me these. Sorry again for the troubles that i give to you.

Thanks and regards
Saivenkat:)
 

saivenkat

Well-Known Member
Sir, Thanks again for patiently responding to my queries, and i know sir, that i am disturbing you a lot with my silly doubts, but i feel no other alternative than asking you directly sir.

I agree with you sir, during the LIVE MARKET data is on the LEFT side of the entry, we don't know what could be the next move. It is in this context sir, i am still not clear.

Sir, now i place before you how i would have traded in this context.

1) Since the upper BB is pierced on the first occasion i would have gone short and put a SL
2) Immediately the market has moved up and my STOP LOSS WOULD BE HIT. My trade is finished.


Now my doubts are:


A) My order goes wrong, and you told "NEVER PLACE ANOTHER ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order, if it goes wrong" what does this statement mean to me now, how should i react? Can i take that, i must not execute another buy/sell order immediately after that wrong trade?

B) Sir, today you told that, you will keep adding short positions, that is again go short when the upper BB was pierced for the second time?

Sir, Does not this appear to look contrary " never place another order in the vicinity of the first order goes wrong"

Sir please clarify me these. Sorry again for the troubles that i give to you.

Thanks and regards
Saivenkat:)
Sir, with out seeing your explanation i posted the above post. Sorry for it. Now i am cleared of my doubts. Thanks again.
Regards
Saivenkat:)
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
Sir, Thanks again for patiently responding to my queries, and i know sir, that i am disturbing you a lot with my silly doubts, but i feel no other alternative than asking you directly sir.

I agree with you sir, during the LIVE MARKET data is on the LEFT side of the entry, we don't know what could be the next move. It is in this context sir, i am still not clear.

Sir, now i place before you how i would have traded in this context.

1) Since the upper BB is pierced on the first occasion i would have gone short and put a SL
2) Immediately the market has moved up and my STOP LOSS WOULD BE HIT. My trade is finished.


Now my doubts are:


A) My order goes wrong, and you told "NEVER PLACE ANOTHER ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order, if it goes wrong" what does this statement mean to me now, how should i react? Can i take that, i must not execute another buy/sell order immediately after that wrong trade?

B) Sir, today you told that, you will keep adding short positions, that is again go short when the upper BB was pierced for the second time?

Sir, Does not this appear to look contrary " never place another order in the vicinity of the first order goes wrong"

Sir please clarify me these. Sorry again for the troubles that i give to you.

Thanks and regards
Saivenkat:)
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Thanks again for patiently responding to my queries, and i know sir, that i am disturbing you a lot with my silly doubts, but i feel no other alternative than asking you directly sir.
You are welcome.A system will successful only after thorough testing.

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I agree with you sir, during the LIVE MARKET data is on the LEFT side of the entry, we don't know what could be the next move. It is in this context sir, i am still not clear.
1) Since the upper BB is pierced on the first occasion i would have gone short and put a SL
2) Immediately the market has moved up and my STOP LOSS WOULD BE HIT. My trade is finished.
That is why always keep sufficient long Stoploss ,ranging from 10 ~20 points.
(Not tooo big)

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A) My order goes wrong, and you told [B][I]"NEVER PLACE ANOTHER ORDER in the vicinity of FIRST order, if it goes wrong" [/I][/B] what does this statement mean to me now, how should i react? Can i take that, i must not execute another buy/sell order immediately after that wrong trade?
If second order in the vicinity of first ,is kept then the chances of second
hitting Stoploss is higher.Hitting SL in quick succession hits our morale also.

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B)Today you told that, you will keep adding short positions, that is again go short when the upper BB was pierced for the second time? 
Does not this appear to look contrary " never place another order in the vicinity of the first order goes wrong"
Today, I placed a short order at 5322.But later on when candles pierced
top band at 5324 and 5326,I did not place short orders, but placed order
at 5328.At that time market was in over bought condition with Stochastic
at 95.I was confident of fall.But I did not expect such a drastic fall.Then
Futures went to 5306 and recovered to 5312.There is power problem in our
area from 1400 to 1600 hrs.I could not do anything than placing a limit order
at 5300.
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
BB(20,2) of nifty futures on time frame 4,6min are presented below.

Go long when Red+Green candles pierce the bottom band and wait for 15minutes
for confirmation after taking position, otherwise come out with stoploss

Go short when Green+Red candles pierce the top band and wait for 15minutes
for confirmation after taking position , otherwise come out with stoploss

Otherwise continue with TREND if candles graze(ride) TOP/BOTTOM
bands.

 
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