Daily Tryst with Nifty

lazytrader

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Re: Short nifty futures for month of 27 August at 4070

Thank you so much for your suggestion and i gues i m gonna to do the same, but should i short again NIfty Aug say @ 4600 or 4650 sothat my average will be around 4400..
You should not be averaging a losing trade. You don't make any profits and risk even more. If it goes against you, you will lose more. If you short again you might end up asking the same question again.

What is done is done no point looking at it. What you can do is square off immediately but since now markets are closed it would be tomorrow. You might think squaring off immediately would be a hasty decision but think about this - the correction may not come till the second after the margin call. What then?

What I would do is this - tomorrow morning look for global cues and news or anything that might point to further rise. Once ascertained that rise is imminent since 4500 is also taken out square off on "confirmation that the price is actually rising". No point holding on to a losing position, certainly no point holding on to something that is going to lose more. If anything it would be better to go long and make some profits while waiting for the slide, wouldn't it?

If there's hope of a breakdown below 4500 tomorrow then hold on as long as it is falling. Then take a fresh call from there.

That is what I would do since I don't like losing positions. If you have deep enough pockets which I assume you do to short at 4070 and hold on so long, then there's still 30 days to go it might come down but no one will be able to tell you if you will see 4070.
 

AW10

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After two days of hard work and backtesting of system, I have managed to prepare a trading plan for myself.
Congratulation WOD for coming out with draft plan. First step is generally the most difficult one.. and then your traderji friends won't let u stop after first step. There has been good comments for Ankit /LT/ Prasad and others.

Plz give me some time to comment on it.

Happy Trading
 

WOD

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Congratulation WOD for coming out with draft plan. First step is generally the most difficult one.. and then your traderji friends won't let u stop after first step. There has been good comments for Ankit /LT/ Prasad and others.

Plz give me some time to comment on it.

Happy Trading
Please take your time.
 

ag_fx

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Sunil...mere dost...where were u during the market hours...missed u online...

btw our mission independence is going good....:thumb:

I dont have trix with me and wud like to discuss with you more on it....whenever you come online, pingofy me...

Happy Trading

PS: I had a disaster day with ambush today...Some old habbits of making mistakes dont go only....Lost on such a good winning day... :(
 

Aqua9

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Sunil...mere dost...where were u during the market hours...missed u online...

btw our mission independence is going good....:thumb:

I dont have trix with me and wud like to discuss with you more on it....whenever you come online, pingofy me...

Happy Trading

PS: I had a disaster day with ambush today...Some old habbits of making mistakes dont go only....Lost on such a good winning day... :(
Hi Sunil

Even i would be interested if you could given some thoughts on Trix indicators.

Cheers
Aqua.
 

WOD

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It looks more of a trading system than a trading plan. As AW has mentioned a trading system fits inside a trading plan. here's something that would give you an idea and help you chalk out a trading plan http://www.trade2win.com/media/knowledge/tim-wilcox/T2W_Trading_Plan_Template_2005.pdf

Not a big fan of small periods for MA other than being too hard to see the crossovers I find them moving too fast. I just use candlesticks directly for short TF so wont comment on the trading system.

- If you reduce the no of indicators you are watching you can increase the number of scripts to watch.
- 75-80% capital in a single trade and 5% risk. Guess what that is - "A recipe for disaster". Let me explain with an example using NF and 1Lakh capital.
Take one lot position, Rs.30k used with 20pt SL = Rs.1000 risked
In %age terms, 30% capital, 1% risk.
When the position moves in favour by 30pts take more lot move the SL up by 15pts. Now 60% capital used, risked 1.5% but on a profitable position, and so on..

This is just an example to show you how we can take up massive positions but without increasing risk. What it costs is time. You will need to look into lower timeframes to get into good RR positions and build up positions. I would insist you rework the position sizing.


Will again skip commenting on this part because I regulary watch News, CNBC in particular, watchout for global indices for cues, regularly look for comments from seniors here on nifty direction and calls and pay special attention to their TA. :)


And finally, I suppose is just phrased incorrectly. It must have been "When not to trade", because when not to trade your plan is when you have a better trading plan or when you are not trading at all. :D

One other thing I would like to add, I don't know how many agree to this - Dennis Gartman who once published The 20 Ridiculously Simple Rules of Trading wrote in his final rule:
"20. Finally, all rules are meant to be broken. The trick is knowing when... and how infrequently this rule may be invoked!" :D

Hi LT bro, your feedback is much appreciated....I will try to incorporate some of the things mentioned by you in next draft of my trading plan.....
 

lazytrader

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I have two lots of nifty short positions at 4350

What should I do tomorrow

Where the market is heading?

Shall I square off them and take long position?
Well, the profit booking is done and we are above 4500 again. So I guess you go long now. No point staying short in a bullish market.

Edit: As soon as I hit save nifty slipped below 4500. I guess it would be better to wait for it to move a little higher than 4500 before reversing.
 
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praveen taneja

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Cant stop myself from going long hahahah
bought Cairn at 246 with a stop loss minimum 10th august lets see
 

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