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travi

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We were talking about Mobile Phone supertraders a couple of days ago :)

Some stats in the ET article recently.



https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...d-of-indian-mkts-too/articleshow/77966602.cms

Robinhoods taking hold of Indian market too, and how!

Average daily turnover through mobile trading on the NSE in the cash market jumped to a record 24.3% of total turnover in August compared with about 10% a year ago and 2% five years ago.

The top five brokers in India in terms of active clients said 80-85% of them currently trade through mobile phones.

So i'm the mad guy who buys Data / Charting tool and Laptop with all sorts of backups :DD
 
We were talking about Mobile Phone supertraders a couple of days ago :)

Some stats in the ET article recently.



https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...d-of-indian-mkts-too/articleshow/77966602.cms

Robinhoods taking hold of Indian market too, and how!

Average daily turnover through mobile trading on the NSE in the cash market jumped to a record 24.3% of total turnover in August compared with about 10% a year ago and 2% five years ago.

The top five brokers in India in terms of active clients said 80-85% of them currently trade through mobile phones.

So i'm the mad guy who buys Data / Charting tool and Laptop with all sorts of backups :DD
Let's see how these mobile traders that are active in the last few months perform over the next few quarters. They had the misfortune of getting into the market at almost the bottom. Yes, you read it right, misfortune. As now, these traders think they know how to trade.
Whereas, they were mostly, plain lucky.
Then come people who trade professionally.... They were here before robinhood guys, still here, and will remain here in the markets, if they do not do anything stupid, like breaking rules too frequently.
So, these figures of people trading on mobiles is just a fancy figure.
Of course, there will be exceptions, that will survive, learn and even excel at mobile trading, but they will be few and far in number
Even with professional traders, the owner of a leading Data Vendor who is a dear friend, mentioned that the average subscription of data that a trader takes is 4 months. That's it. He no longer renews. This is the average. Hence you have annual plans, as you know, That trader will not survive the entire 12 months, one month renewal at a time.
 
Lack of recovery in banknifty worries me. It is reflective about state of economy of our country. We might see banknifty crashing next year if we dn't recover by then. What do you think kumar babu ?
:D no one's addressed me are kumar babu so far, that's why i find it strange .
I have a different take of this subject of the " country's economy" thing. I dont profess any knowledge of the economy nor financial understanding, so will give my opinion purely on a layman's terms. It is just a personal opinion .

Though most media and oppositition and some so called economists have been predicting and proclaiming a doomsday situation for india, is it really so ?. Just leaving aside our political leanings, and the media picture look at the market and the businesses neutrally, does it really look shattered? not to me, i agree there are lots of shops closed maybe many are out of jobs but its not in the doldrums as projected.
My friends in the auto industry have told me the business has picked up well and in fact though i expected a boom in the small car segment( people buying personal cars to avoid crowds) even the 8 lakh plus segment is showing great growth, a couple of friends in the realty segment also have said business has picked up. in fact my friend's wife who works for prestige builders said that throughout the lockdown period they have been selling online with great results. all premium projects are getting sold in days, this does not say economy is down.
the local vendors though had complained of slowdown have not been destroyed, they have bounced back well. in fact the chap who sells flowers on a push cart near my house just bought a pulsar.

The stock market is another story, there's no ipo which is ignored, and though people say robinhood, lack of other jobs etc, i do not believe so people will speculate on the market with money which cant be spared especially when it is projected that they dont have jobs and prospects, no salary , unsure future.etc etc

I am not saying this to support modi, it's just an outside observation. Whereas you can very clearly see that many of those attacking the economy with all sorts of figures are always looking at ways to pin this on PM Modi. in fact a few of them are blaming him personally. All this is unfair. Just because one person is seen as a threat politically it is not that he has destroyed the economy. The current situation is not very good globally as the situation is similar in most places. but my feeling is the recovery in india will be far greater and better because as indians the real grass root economy is not in the books and theories but like they say the jugaad of our countrymen :D

sorry for the long post , but i had to say this. I will mention a small incident to show my case.
My friend has a fabrication and press unit where I used to go off and on. He has a lot of employees, welders tool and die makers, fitters etc ., all local men and no formal schooling. fantastic workmen. There was a day another chap brought an industrialist from UP who has been looking for some one to make him a die for some huge order he has and has not been able to get a die made to give the exact specifications. Someone told him about the die maker working for my friend and brought him to the factory. This guy looked at the drawing for a long time and asked his one simple question. Do you want a die that works or do you want a die exactly as per the drawing.
now you know why i have immense faith in indians. :D
 

siddhant4u

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:D no one's addressed me are kumar babu so far, that's why i find it strange .
I have a different take of this subject of the " country's economy" thing. I dont profess any knowledge of the economy nor financial understanding, so will give my opinion purely on a layman's terms. It is just a personal opinion .

Though most media and oppositition and some so called economists have been predicting and proclaiming a doomsday situation for india, is it really so ?. Just leaving aside our political leanings, and the media picture look at the market and the businesses neutrally, does it really look shattered? not to me, i agree there are lots of shops closed maybe many are out of jobs but its not in the doldrums as projected.
My friends in the auto industry have told me the business has picked up well and in fact though i expected a boom in the small car segment( people buying personal cars to avoid crowds) even the 8 lakh plus segment is showing great growth, a couple of friends in the realty segment also have said business has picked up. in fact my friend's wife who works for prestige builders said that throughout the lockdown period they have been selling online with great results. all premium projects are getting sold in days, this does not say economy is down.
the local vendors though had complained of slowdown have not been destroyed, they have bounced back well. in fact the chap who sells flowers on a push cart near my house just bought a pulsar.

The stock market is another story, there's no ipo which is ignored, and though people say robinhood, lack of other jobs etc, i do not believe so people will speculate on the market with money which cant be spared especially when it is projected that they dont have jobs and prospects, no salary , unsure future.etc etc

I am not saying this to support modi, it's just an outside observation. Whereas you can very clearly see that many of those attacking the economy with all sorts of figures are always looking at ways to pin this on PM Modi. in fact a few of them are blaming him personally. All this is unfair. Just because one person is seen as a threat politically it is not that he has destroyed the economy. The current situation is not very good globally as the situation is similar in most places. but my feeling is the recovery in india will be far greater and better because as indians the real grass root economy is not in the books and theories but like they say the jugaad of our countrymen :D

sorry for the long post , but i had to say this. I will mention a small incident to show my case.
My friend has a fabrication and press unit where I used to go off and on. He has a lot of employees, welders tool and die makers, fitters etc ., all local men and no formal schooling. fantastic workmen. There was a day another chap brought an industrialist from UP who has been looking for some one to make him a die for some huge order he has and has not been able to get a die made to give the exact specifications. Someone told him about the die maker working for my friend and brought him to the factory. This guy looked at the drawing for a long time and asked his one simple question. Do you want a die that works or do you want a die exactly as per the drawing.
now you know why i have immense faith in indians. :D
what you are seeing in auto sector is pant-up demand. Real estate sector friend is working for Godrej properties which defined the lockdown. Else you can see the number of units sold for other listed entities at the price before/after the lockdown and you will get the real picture.

Beside, all time high unemployment will come back pinching economy sooner than later.
 
what you are seeing in auto sector is pant-up demand. Real estate sector friend is working for Godrej properties which defined the lockdown. Else you can see the number of units sold for other listed entities at the price before/after the lockdown and you will get the real picture.

Beside, all time high unemployment will come back pinching economy sooner than later.
Biggest trouble is hefty govt pay the babus are getting..
They are not doing anything creative..they are not even doing their job properly without getting bribed

Massive salary increase of Govt babus is something for which the taxpayer individual and companies has to bear the burnt...they are not spending their earning hence no contribution to economy as such..
privatization is only solution to this
 

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