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TraderRavi

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TraderRavi

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two days to go in this month ...I am nervous..:confused:..last september 2010...I had blown my 50k account in 2 days playing options..:(...
done it again...lost 45k.....shorted and averaged......waited for pullback which never came.....completly exhausted.....:(
 

TraderRavi

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hi, both of us have same story. Can u post detail of today's trade?
shorted NF , BNF 1 lot each...total loss 2k ..sl hit..
bot 20 lots 4900 pe.@ 20 lost all then averaged..insane trade...
my mind was fixed that expiry will be around 4920...so did not think to go long...

wats your trade today....
 
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shorted NF , BNF 1 lot each...total loss 2k ..sl hit..
bot 20 lots 4900 pe.@ 20 lost all then averaged..insane trade...
my mind was fixed that expiry will be around 4920...so did not think to go long...

wats your trade today....
Hi Ravi,
I read through your dairy from 1st page till the last, all I can say is, I am really impressed with your will and your courage to take losses so easily:clap:. I know I've been there and it really knocks me to the ground and that too when I had made some 500 rupees loss!

Well, after reading through your journal I can see that you trade everyday.
I used to do that too, believe me, this day trading is more trouble than its worth, its not the loss that really causes you pain its that mental agony and the anticipation of the worst, which can turn something so enjoyable as trading in to gambling/fearful experience.

I think you will have really big success if you became an investor.
But, if you must trade actively, then try some thing I have discovered... NSE is kind enough to put up technical analysis page on their website, which has all sorts of indicators from Moving averages to more complicated ones. wwwdotnseindiadotcom/ChartApp/install/charts/mainpagedotjsp

My approach is as follows, if you must trade actively, then plot two years of Index nifty data on the chart on "weekly" basis then add 5 day EMA to it. If for example you're doing this on a friday then, the 5 day EMA can serve as the "levels to watch out for" on monday and for the entire week.
You can use the 10 points below your entry price which will be your SL,and the 5 points above 5 EMA will be your entry price for a short or a long accordingly.

I have done couple of trades like this which have been quite successful, but then I switched to intermediate term..

Final word of advice:You must take whenever you have 50 points of Nifty Future profits. Please test this method thoroughly before implementation, by doing dummy tests on the market... I really hope this helps you.....

All the best:thumb:
Karthik
 

anuragmunjal

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hi Ravi

sharing an excerpt frm trader Vic's book that I really liked...

The secret of the Gamboni is the secret of how to survive in the financial markets. Understand it…really understand it… and you are on you way to success as a trader, speculator, or investor. So, here it is:

Joe was a card player, a good one. He was so good, in fact, that he had to move from city to city and find games where he wasn’t known in order to play for high stakes. One afternoon, in a bar in the suburb of Chicago, he’s shooting the breeze with the bartender and asks,

”Say, where can I find a good card game around here?”

“What kind of stakes are you talking about?”

“Big,” Joe says, “the biggest game you know about.”

“Well now, I hear there’s a game out in the farm country. It’s a bit of a drive, but these particular farmers play for big money. Let me make a call and see if it’s OK.”
So the bartender makes the call, and then gives Joe direction to the game.

That evening, after a long drive, Joe pulls up to this barn in the middle of nowhere. Tentatively, he walks inside, tiptoeing around the fetid piles on the floor. At the back of the barn, he spots a partially open door, with lights and smoke pouring through the opening. The familiar rush of anticipating and energy sweeps through him as he enters the room and introduces himself.

Farmers in overalls sit around the table, chewing cigars and puffing their pipes. In a quick glance, Joe estimates the current pot to be about $40,000 – perfect. So he sits down. “Ante up,” says the farmer holding the deck of cards. And Joe begins to play.

About an hour later, Joes is holding his own. He is about even when he draws three aces and two queens – a full house. With a large pot already on the table, he raise $15,000. The next two guys fold, but the leather-face farmer across the table calls him and raises another $15,000, without so much as batting an eye. Joe, certain that the guy is bluffing, calls the bet and lays down his aces-high full house. The farmer lays down junk: three clubs and two diamonds of mixed numbered cards. Joe, suppressing a smile, starts to rake in the pot.

“Wait just a damn minute,” says the farmer, a stern and reprimanding tone in his voice.

“Whattaya mean, wait a minute,” says Joe, “you got nothing.”

“Take a look at the sign over your right shoulder,” smiles the farmer.

Joe looks:

THREE CLUBS AND TWO DIAMONDS CONSTITUTE A GAMBONI, THE TOP WINNING HAND IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT

Joe is really angry, but after all, rules are rules, so he continues to play with what is left of his holdings. About an hour later, he draws three clubs and two diamonds… a Gamboni! He bets everything, and on the final round of betting with the same leather-faced farmer he has to throw in his solid gold Rolex to make the call. The farmer turns over his cards of a queen-high spade flush. Joe turns over his Gamboni and starts to rake in the pot.

“Hold it there, fella,” says the farmer, his grin cutting deep lines in his cheeks.

“But I got a Gamboni!” cries an exasperated Joe.

“Sure ‘nough, but look at the sign over there,” and he points over Joe’s left shoulder.

Joe looks:

ONLY ONE GAMBONI WILL BE PERMITTED PER NIGHT IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT

Joe, broke but thankful for the invention of credit cards, leaves the barn with dung on his shoes and the leather-face farmer drives his tractor home feeling the weight of a solid gold Rolex on his wrist.
 

TraderRavi

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Hi Ravi,
I read through your dairy from 1st page till the last, all I can say is, I am really impressed with your will and your courage to take losses so easily:clap:. I know I've been there and it really knocks me to the ground and that too when I had made some 500 rupees loss!

All the best:thumb:
Karthik
somehow I dont feel that much attachment to money...I mean I was losing 20k on a bad trade but to cover 20k I end up losing another 22k......Until I did not develop fear of losing money...I will continue to lose like this.....:mad:
 

PGDIMES

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somehow I dont feel that much attachment to money...I mean I was losing 20k on a bad trade but to cover 20k I end up losing another 22k......Until I did not develop fear of losing money...I will continue to lose like this.....:mad:

Neither the fear nor the greed will help... Please calculate the risk before you take a trade... Plan the trade and trade the plan... :)
 
Hello,

Make a Perfect Plan for trading.

No,Even this won't be the receipe of success, u'll Loose again after following ur perfect plan, but the knowledge that u'll gain after that would be really valuable for u to master the difficult Art that trading is.

Even 100% Absolute Perfect Execution will not gurantee u positive result..Trust me there's a lot of learning to do for you...u're a novice in the market...u have around 100 very very difficult stages to complete and u haven't started the Stage 1.

I'm not discouraging u...just shoving u towards the right direction.

Self Blaming will not ease the process but will make it difficult..so start on the right path at the earliest...
 
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