Don't worry about the market,Earn regardless of where the market goes !!

arnav_rulz

Well-Known Member
#51
**BUY 100 PUT Of Nifty(4100) @ 270

**Sell 200 Put of Nifty(3800) @ 250


* Total Investment, 2000 Rs, Loss after Nifty goes belows 3500 in current Month(July). You Earn @ any close between 3500-4100 but do not lose above close of 4100.

** Buy 50 CALLS of Nifty(4000) @ 160

*Total Investment Rs. 8000, Upside Unlimited.... You just lose your investment on close of below 4000, which you would recover from your Puts...

This chart does not include the 8000 amount u invested....

1)3300 - You lose 20,000
2)3400 - You lose 10,000
3)3500 - You lose 0
4)3600 - You receive 10,000
5)3700 - You receive 20,000
6)3800 - You receive 30,000
7)3900 - You receive 20,000
8)4000 - You receive10,000
9)4100 - You receive 5,000
10)4200 - You receive 10,000
11)4300 - You receive 15,000
12)4400 - You receive 20,000

*And so on, on every 100 point rise you gain 5,000 more.

Buy 50/100 Nifty Put of 4400 @ 500
Sell 100/200 Nifty Put of 4100 @ 275*2(550)
Buy 50/100 Nifty Put of 3800 @ 125

Buy 50/100 Nifty Call of 4300 @ 45
Buy 50/100 Nifty Put of 4000 @ 205
Sell 200 Nifty Put of 3700 @ 95

* Total Investment = 13,000

Losses Below a close of 3530 ( Per Lot ){But you dont lose your investment}
Gains Above a close of 3530 (Including return of Investment)

Between 4300 - 4400 You earn Nothing, but above 4400 You earn per lot(Including return of your investment)
Im giving the Net profit/loss @ different Closes @ End of July(This Includes the {-13,500} cash outflow)


3300----->(-23,500)
3400----->(-13,500)
3500---->(-3500)
3530------>(0)
3600---->(+6,500)
3700---->(+16,500)
3800---->(+6,500)
3900----->(+6,500)
4000----->(+6,500)
4100------>(16,500)
4200------->(6,500)
4300------->(-3500)
4400------->(-3,500)
4500------->(+6,500)
4600------>(+16,500)
4700------>(26,500)
4800------>(36,500)


*If Nifty is about to close any where 4300-4400, Then we can always sell our Puts (of 4000 and 3800) And recover back 3500 making our losses Nil btw 4300-4400.
 

arnav_rulz

Well-Known Member
#52
Now if any1 would have invested in both of the above strategies your profits on various profits on diff closings would have been...


1)4100 -> 13,500
2)4200 -> 8,500
3)4300 -> 3500
4)4400 -> 10,000
5)4500 -> 24,500

Even @ a close of 4000 you would have earned 8500 and on a close of 3800(downside) you would have earned 30,000 !!

Any close above 4500 you would have earned 25,000 +15000 (per 100 points) :O


Any1 interested for strategies for the month of Aug :p
 

praveen taneja

Well-Known Member
#53
Now if any1 would have invested in both of the above strategies your profits on various profits on diff closings would have been...


1)4100 -> 13,500
2)4200 -> 8,500
3)4300 -> 3500
4)4400 -> 10,000
5)4500 -> 24,500

Even @ a close of 4000 you would have earned 8500 and on a close of 3800(downside) you would have earned 30,000 !!

Any close above 4500 you would have earned 25,000 +15000 (per 100 points) :O


Any1 interested for strategies for the month of Aug :p
yes i m interested in ur strategy for the mnth of aug thnx god bless u
 

arnav_rulz

Well-Known Member
#54
Sure, 1st give me a range between which you think nifty would close in Aug.

Or tell me what your aim is ? Like my aim for August is to protect my downside... So my range currently 4400-3500 where i would earn if there is any close between this level and lose a single penny on a close above that.

I would only lose upon a close below 3500 in Aug.

Like this you could tell me abt what you think abt the market i would help you form a strategy suitable for you.
 
#55
hi.. i think the market will remain in the range u specified n so one can easily follow wat ur plans for options are in the month of august..

am really keen to try it..
 

praveen taneja

Well-Known Member
#56
Sure, 1st give me a range between which you think nifty would close in Aug.

Or tell me what your aim is ? Like my aim for August is to protect my downside... So my range currently 4400-3500 where i would earn if there is any close between this level and lose a single penny on a close above that.

I would only lose upon a close below 3500 in Aug.

Like this you could tell me abt what you think abt the market i would help you form a strategy suitable for you.
k i dont think mkt will go below 3800 n above 4500 but while doing all those trade can u tell me exactly how much fund i needed with me or in my a/c bcoz selling put or call means selling nifty n broker will square up whenever see much loss to that:eek:
 

arnav_rulz

Well-Known Member
#57
k i dont think mkt will go below 3800 n above 4500 but while doing all those trade can u tell me exactly how much fund i needed with me or in my a/c bcoz selling put or call means selling nifty n broker will square up whenever see much loss to that:eek:
kk ... between 4500-3800 is a good range. I would make up a strategy for you tomorrow with the Prevailing rates of the Puts and Calls on different levels.


And your position is pretty much hedged as u r both buying a put selling it, but still you may have to ask your broker about how he charges, as if i mean if sees that we have are earning more in 1 put while we lose in the other.

As per Funds, You need NO (cash investment) But some amount of margin(less than nifty lot) were you may even give your stocks as margins.


*if any1 thinks about a different range do tell me and also tell your how much risk you are willing to take.
 

rohangawale

Well-Known Member
#58
hi
very interesting stratergies by u dear arnav.
i think mkt will be in the range of 3600-4500.
so what type of stratergy would u suggest
 

arnav_rulz

Well-Known Member
#59
rohan , Pravien and sahil .... You all seem to have similar strategies...

Therefore i am making a range of 4380-3570 for you guys...

Buy 1 put of 4400 @ 250
Sell 2 Puts of 4100 @ (120*2)240

Buy 1 put of 3900 @ 65
Sell 2 Puts of 3600 @ 55(27.5*2)


Thus your total Cash investment = 2000 which is thus reduced from your range...

This is just 1 of the strategies i thought of right now... let me work on something else too.
 

jnj333

Active Member
#60
rohan , Pravien and sahil .... You all seem to have similar strategies...

Therefore i am making a range of 4380-3570 for you guys...

Buy 1 put of 4400 @ 250
Sell 2 Puts of 4100 @ (120*2)240

Buy 1 put of 3900 @ 65
Sell 2 Puts of 3600 @ 55(27.5*2)


Thus your total Cash investment = 2000 which is thus reduced from your range...

This is just 1 of the strategies i thought of right now... let me work on something else too.
arnav,

Should the investment be not Rs.1000 instead of Rs.2000 as you have mentioned-

Buy 1 put of 4400 @ 250 Premium payable-12500
Sell 2 Puts of 4100 @ (120*2)240 Premium received-12000
Net Payable - 500 (a)


Buy 1 put of 3900 @ 65 Premium payable -3250
Sell 2 Puts of 3600 @ 55(27.5*2) Premium received -2750
Net Payable - 500 (b)

(a) + (b) = 500 + 500 = Rs.1000

Kindly clearify,
regards
jnj