F & O use to buy and sell a share

aad

Active Member
#11
Re: F & o queries

Tushar,
Hello everybody!
Happy INDEPENDENCE DAY!

I am very new to this site & hoping for good responce as u all always give.
I am trading in stocks for last 2 yrs & i wish 2 trade in f & o.
For last couple of months i am reffering this site ,icici direct.com and some books reg. this.But have some doubts & hope 2 get answer here.

1) If i write call or put approx. how much margin is reqd? is it very large?
2) If i sell call option of stock but then stock starts rising & i fear of call getting exercised can i buy futures of same to cover?
3) e.g. spot price is 100 Rs, If i sell OTM call option of 120stk & prem. of 5 Rs
and i recv. prem of 5 Rs. But at the exp. day spot price is 125 then what
happens? do i retain my prem ?
4) If i am bullish on stock and write OTM put but if trend is reversed & stock
starts falling can i sell futures on same stock and buy it afterwords to
cover my losses on short put ?
5) Is REL PETRO not available for option trading?
6) When i buy call on stock with stk. of 100 & prem of 10 my breakeven is at
110, i pay 10 Rs as a prem and on exp. if stock is at 110 then does call
go worthless & i lose prem?

I am sorry if i have asked too many queries, since i don't know much
about general procedure here.

Thanks in advance.
Dear Tushar,

Since most of your queries are already answered by Vince, I am just quoting a few para from "Come into my trading-room" by Alexander Elder. They are self-explainatory. And there is much more in the same book on option-writing, in general. I have heard a book by Indian Writer "Ashwin Mehta" titled "How to make money trading derivatives" is also a very good. I am sure you will do your home-work before considering options-writing. My friendly suggestion to you is to go for options buying first, see how good you are at predicting the "option moves". This is especially so because options market is very volatile, unlike stocks (especially Nifty) and there is a crucial element called "time value" which is not present in stocks. Your loss here will be restricted (although it can be as high as 100% of premium :D ). Once succeed in option-buying, you can consider option-writing.

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Excerpts from "Come into my trading room - Alexander Elder"

There are two types of option writers. Covered writers buy a stock
and write an option against it. Naked writers write calls and puts on
stocks they dont own, backing their writes with cash in their accounts.
Writing naked options feels like taking money out of thin air, but a violent
move can put you out of business. Writing options is a serious
game, suitable only for disciplined and well-capitalized traders.

Large funds tend to use computerized models to buy stocks and
write covered calls against them. If a stock stays below the strike price,
they pocket the premium and write a new call with a new expiration
date. If a stock rises high enough to be called, they deliver it, collect
the money, invest in another stock, and write calls against it. Covered
writing is a mathematically demanding, capital-intensive business. Most
serious players spread their costs, including staff and equipment,
across a large capital base. A small trader doesnt have much of an
edge in this expensive enterprise.

We must not forget that an option is a hope, and it is better to sell
empty hopes which are unlikely to be fulfilled. Take three steps before
writing a call or a put. First, analyze the underlying security, decide
which way its moving, and estimate its price target. Second, decide
whether to write a put or a call. Third, choose the strike price and the
expiration date for the option youll write. If any one of these steps
seems unclear, stand aside, do not force a decision, and look for
another opportunity.

Option writers get hurt in one of three ways. Beginners overtrade and
write too many options, breaking money management rules. Intermediate level
traders get hurt when they fail to run fast enough when their
options move against them. Experienced traders can get blown out if
they do not have a reserve against a major adverse move. The longer
you trade, the greater your risk of a catastrophic event. Having an insurance
account confirms your position as a professional option writer.


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Regards,

Abhay (AAD)
 
#12
Hello,

I am new at TRADERJI someone pls guide me on writing calls and puts,

Pls solve the condition bellow:

If buy 300 reliance ind shares @ 1030.00,
And write call of strike price 1060 @ 15.00,
Suppose on expiry price of reliance ind will close @ 1050.00

How much I earn????

Like to see the reply earlier....

Thanx.
 

vince

Active Member
#13
Hello Shadabshaik,

You keep the premium of Rs 15 and if you decide to sell the shares on expiry you get the Rs 20/share.

Go figure. :)
 
#17
Hello Shadabshaik,

You keep the premium of Rs 15 and if you decide to sell the shares on expiry you get the Rs 20/share.

Go figure. :)
Thst mesns I can sell the shares as well as buy the shares using options...Am I correct? Some one told in this forum that options are only cash settled...I am really confused now...Can any one explain step by step in detail please...
thanks in advance...
 

vince

Active Member
#18
No jigs080806, The query I have answered was about a covered call. Options in India are cash settled.

Please do not confuse yourself. Reread the query pls.
 
#19
Hello Members,

First thanks to VINCE and other members,
Now my other query regarding buying puts & calls,

Solve this condition,

I have bought 400 ranbaxy shares @ 389.00
Also bought 1 lot(400) of ranbaxy put strike price of 400 @ 13.00

What happen if ranbaxy close on expiry @ 396.00
And which price i start making profit...

I think it is lowest risk strategy but guide me through anyway..

waiting for your reply.

SHAHDAB SHAIKH
 

vince

Active Member
#20
Hello Members,

First thanks to VINCE and other members,
Now my other query regarding buying puts & calls,

Solve this condition,

I have bought 400 ranbaxy shares @ 389.00
Also bought 1 lot(400) of ranbaxy put strike price of 400 @ 13.00

What happen if ranbaxy close on expiry @ 396.00
And which price i start making profit...

I think it is lowest risk strategy but guide me through anyway..

waiting for your reply.

SHAHDAB SHAIKH
Hi Shahdab,

Your outflow on the put is 5200

If ranbaxy closes at 396 on expiry you make 7*400(shares) + 4*400(put) = 4400

So you still lose 800.

I have said it earlier the lower the risk the lower the reward and there is no holy grail, if there is any it is discipline and trade management.

Trade well