General Trading Chat

[patrader]

Smart_trade I want to start investing in index based fund every month. If such facility is there.. which index based fund would you suggest?

 

[niftytaurus]

Most new traders will have this querry. I have my investment portfolio, mutual fund portfolio,real estate portfolio and trading portfolio. All the four are independent.

Traders can make very good returns but I ask a question to me can I scale up trading ? Meaning I am suppose ok trading on 15-20 L capital but can I trade on more than 1 crore capital ??The answer for me is a bit difficult. And even if I make 20-25% return per annum, I will make big profits....so not after those 300 % return magic traders. I am not saying they cannot make high returns but for me 20 % pa is more than enough to increase my wealth.So I believe that diversification is the key.I am no more in capital generation so why take undue risks and risk my family's financial future which is absolutely secured as of now.

Smart_trade

Dear St dA
I have read this post of yours & subsequent many post regarding to this topic..i am totally agree with you..it will be very difficult to scale up in trading..i have ponder on it & I have some points to mention & some queries to ask for comprehensive financial planning..
1) I like this concept of 4 type of portfoilo..trading,investment,mutual fund & real estate..new traders first need to make trading capital..as you mentioned, suppose , trader is trading with 20 lac capital..so average return for a month is 20%..so its 4 lac/ month income, which is good..
so should we trade after that mark with same capital..or how much can we scale up in intraday trading as well as swing trading ? i mean how much MAXIMUM capital should we allow to allot to trading ?
2) if we reach at maximum capital in trading..so should we trade with same capital alwys?
3) If we reach at maximum limit in trading..so now we will go to other investment instruments like investment, MF & real estate...so is it some order of enter into it? like first we should go for investment ( buy shares for at least mote than 1 year, so no tax on profits on capital )..but as its also equity..so how much should the maximum limit of investments?
4) how much percent of your wealth should we allot to mutual funds..? or amount to it?
5)there must be a limit to your total exposure to Equity market( trading,investment & mutual fund combined three )..what should be that limit..it says, it should be 100-age % fo your total wealth..ex if my total net worth is 1 crore, so if my age is 30..i should be alooted 70 lacs to equity & other risky products..thats academic facts..whats the practical alootment should be?
6)after equity, should we allot other saving/investment into real estate..if we have 1 house for live, should we allot extra money to some other income generating business?

your expereince sharing regardign this matter is very important to us..right now is trading hours..please reply whenever you have time
thanks

 

[wisp]

took 8000 put sep at 163 Jai Ram Ji Ki

Sirji

Since when did you start trading options ?

10years +
covered half at 173 Jai Ram Ji KI

http://www.traderji.com/beginners-g...-use-metastock-option-trading.html#post193456

Hi everybody,sir i m new to this forum.I m in stock mkt for the last 5 years n doing work with tips from one or another n in that i lost around 80% of my portfolio with profit.Now i know that w/o any software like metastock i cant earn,thats why i want to learn using meta.I request u all can u provide me any Ebook of how to use meta from which i can learn.Thank u all for giving me ur precious time god bles u take care

I am guilty of the same post digging up business today...but I like to know whose posts I am reading.

 

[lemondew]

Lot of buying at at 7960 . Morning and now

 

[Smart_trade]

Dear St dA
I have read this post of yours & subsequent many post regarding to this topic..i am totally agree with you..it will be very difficult to scale up in trading..i have ponder on it & I have some points to mention & some queries to ask for comprehensive financial planning..
1) I like this concept of 4 type of portfoilo..trading,investment,mutual fund & real estate..new traders first need to make trading capital..as you mentioned, suppose , trader is trading with 20 lac capital..so average return for a month is 20%..so its 4 lac/ month income, which is good..
so should we trade after that mark with same capital..or how much can we scale up in intraday trading as well as swing trading ? i mean how much MAXIMUM capital should we allow to allot to trading ?
2) if we reach at maximum capital in trading..so should we trade with same capital alwys?
3) If we reach at maximum limit in trading..so now we will go to other investment instruments like investment, MF & real estate...so is it some order of enter into it? like first we should go for investment ( buy shares for at least mote than 1 year, so no tax on profits on capital )..but as its also equity..so how much should the maximum limit of investments?
4) how much percent of your wealth should we allot to mutual funds..? or amount to it?
5)there must be a limit to your total exposure to Equity market( trading,investment & mutual fund combined three )..what should be that limit..it says, it should be 100-age % fo your total wealth..ex if my total net worth is 1 crore, so if my age is 30..i should be alooted 70 lacs to equity & other risky products..thats academic facts..whats the practical alootment should be?
6)after equity, should we allot other saving/investment into real estate..if we have 1 house for live, should we allot extra money to some other income generating business?

your expereince sharing regardign this matter is very important to us..right now is trading hours..please reply whenever you have time
thanks

20 % return per month consistantly ?? Do you think it is easy ??Are you making it ? If so you are a star in trading. Even if you are making it on 5-10 L capital it is great.

Rest of the things mentioned depends on every individual...

I tell people not to have unreasonable expectation.

Dont read some crazy things about returns on the net they are 99 % cheating, tall claims of system sellers and trading educators...they will promise you the moon.and get carried away...the real trading is different.

Smart_trade

 

[Smart_trade]

Smart_trade I want to start investing in index based fund every month. If such facility is there.. which index based fund would you suggest?

Google search Index Funds...you will get all the info.I dont invest in index funds as there are other funds which give more CAGR than index funds.

Smart_trade

 

[wisp]

20 % return per month consistantly ?? Do you think it is easy ??Are you making it ? If so you are a star in trading. Even if you are making it on 5-10 L capital it is great.

Rest of the things mentioned depends on every individual...

I tell people not to have unreasonable expectation.

Dont read some crazy things about returns on the net they are 99 % cheating, tall claims of system sellers and trading educators...they will promise you the moon.and get carried away...the real trading is different.

Smart_trade

How many points is a reasonable monthly expectation on Nifty Da?

 

[Smart_trade]

How many points is a reasonable monthly expectation on Nifty Da?

In real trading, my profits range between 150-350 points. In some extraordiary trending period, we have done 600-650 points also but that is very rare.

Smart_trade

 

[niftytaurus]

In real trading, my profits range between 150-350 points. In some extraordiary trending period, we have done 600-650 points also but that is very rare.

Smart_trade

if I am right money management is 50 quantity per 1lac?
Do you trade bank nifty also? how many points can we expect practically in it per month in intraday?
thanks

 

[rahulmalik]

April-July fiscal deficit at 69 pct of annual target