General Trading Chat

[arsh22g]

Awesome Bro....:clap::clap::clapping::clapping:

Many things i need to learn...

One question though from one of your points: You talked about average price when big orders for big players are involved. How do they manage?

Is it through block deals or special orders (or) do they secretly keep chipping away in small qty at key levels?

Thanks

Some of the methods that I know of :
1) Block deals
2) Splitting order into parts and routing to different exchanges, sometimes at different times of the day (like 50% on BSE and 50% on NSE, maybe overseas too if listed there like NASDAQ, NYSE, LSE)
3) Dark pools (not sure if any such thing exists in India yet)

Chipping away may also work if their value estimate is quite high and they don't mind small slippages. One thing that I am very sure of is that Indian brokers have a bad reputation about leaking info of orders of big clients, they front run the trades for small gains for themselves or for gains of others.

 

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[natjay]

Credit Suisse Slides to 27-Year Low (lowest level since October 1989). Looks like DB has company.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...des-to-17-year-low-amid-selloff-overhaul-woes

What is it with banks and NPAs and mismanagement? All across today we were hit by news of NPAs and below-par earnings in our PSU banks. Globally too, it doesn't look that pretty. Banks were responsible for the subprime crisis of 2008 and it seems like they haven't learned their lesson from it. Wonder why bankers still continue to be respected, overpaid and bailed out for their own misdeeds. Someone should trim their tails a bit.

 

[arsh22g]

Credit Suisse Slides to 27-Year Low (lowest level since October 1989). Looks like DB has company.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...des-to-17-year-low-amid-selloff-overhaul-woes

What is it with banks and NPAs and mismanagement? All across today we were hit by news of NPAs and below-par earnings in our PSU banks. Globally too, it doesn't look that pretty. Banks were responsible for the subprime crisis of 2008 and it seems like they haven't learned their lesson from it. Wonder why bankers still continue to be respected, overpaid and bailed out for their own misdeeds. Someone should trim their tails a bit.

It cringes me inside how the financial system is falling apart, some downfall is always healthy, but you know ****'s real when even the CEO says it's bad time to be a bank....what worse is left? a WW3? ....

 

[natjay]

It cringes me inside how the financial system is falling apart, some downfall is always healthy, but you know ****'s real when even the CEO says it's bad time to be a bank....what worse is left? a WW3? ....

Till last week, everyone was talking about China. This week, it's all about the mess in Europe. I see the word "contagion" being thrown around quite a bit and its context seems applicable to everything from the Saudi/Turkey/Syria situation to Janet Yellen's economic outlook.

Bottom line, if this is the week "without" China, wonder what next week will be when China returns to the market. Happy year of the monkey :lol:

For a contrarian view, there's Allianz: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/11/contagion-and-panic-have-crept-into-market-strategist.html

"...contagion is not spreading to the real economy, but within markets themselves"

 

[deba72]

hi, I remember ...
well few yrs , maybe 5 yrs back, I bought TATASTEEL, as so called international brokerage firm gave buy rating . @ 650, target 800 etc etc.
bought it@ 660 approx.
then price down to 400 something. again they told value buy with tgt 600(<my buy price) :annoyed:
again bought @ 400. :lol:
it still kept falling until now.:lol::lol:
now I became long term investor as I m still holding it, atleast dividend is coming !, :lol:

Generally that's why people refer Demat account as "Hospital"... where generally all the sick items reside..:lol::clap:

 

[Rish]

hi, I remember ...
well few yrs , maybe 5 yrs back, I bought TATASTEEL, as so called international brokerage firm gave buy rating . @ 650, target 800 etc etc.
bought it@ 660 approx.
then price down to 400 something. again they told value buy with tgt 600(<my buy price) :annoyed:
again bought @ 400. :lol:
it still kept falling until now.:lol::lol:
now I became long term investor as I m still holding it, atleast dividend is coming !, :lol:

The so called International brokerage will revise the target of Tata Steel and they Downgrade. Then Tata Steel will start moving. Let us pray for Down Grade Rating with the Agencies.

But, I agree, you are forced to be a Longterm Investor...(Just Kidding...Don't be serious)...:clap::clap:

 

[Fundootrader]

so looks like another 150+ point fall tomorrow -real capitulation, margin calls - happy fry day...

 

[Prataap_2013]

Nikkei is down 3% at opening. Hoping for some intraday recovery

 

[Prataap_2013]

Now Nikkei down over 4%. Kospi also red. Only SGX Nifty has opened in green.

KISS KO SHORT KAROON......YEH BHI HAI.......WOH BHI HAI.....HAAAAAAIIIII