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I was thinking of taking some exposure in real estate in 2018 but I read an interview of a reputed builder in my city saying that he is casting 9th slab in his 10 storied housing project of 52 flats and the number of flats booked so far are just 3. He says he has taken bank loan and after completing the project if he is unable to sell, the bank will take over the project and sell flats at reduced rates.....that is a scary outcome.

A relative working as an advocate in a legal department of another builder tells me that in last 2 years they have not sold a single new flat and they have a large inventory of ready to move in flats....his parents had FD with the builder which they have withdrawn prematurely.

IT department has send notices to 35 builders of my city to pay income tax on the ready but unsold flats they are holding....this is one more straw on the camel's back.....

Another interview says that 2018 will see panic situation in property markets with many distress sale projects...

I met a relative at a family wedding and he started asking about which mutual funds to invest etc....on probing further I learnt that he and his wife togather has FD of Rs 32 Lacs ( many small FDs put togather ) with D.S. Kulkarni( a listed real estate development company ) which is facing bankruptcy. That explains sudden interest in mutual funds....very sad for the couple who are retired senior citizen.

So real estate plans on hold for next 1 year atleast as capitulation in real estate market is some time away .....I will look to buy the dips in stock markets and mutual funds.... will be too happy if we get a deep correction in 2018 upto say 9800 nifty or so....

Smart_trade
Da,

Your your view on real estate concurs with this crisil report -

https://www.crisil.com/en/home/our-...idential-market-unlikely-to-look-up-soon.html

Residential market unlikely to look up soon

Despite a favourable policy framework, end users continue to be fence sitters as they await effective implementation of RERA and new launches in the affordable housing segment.


Absorption of new homes declines in last six years…

The real estate sector in India has been witnessing prolonged sluggishness over the last 6-7 years. Absorption of new homes in top 10 cities (Ahmedabad, Bengaluru, Chandigarh, Chennai, Hyderabad, Kochi, Kolkata, Mumbai Metropolitan Region (MMR), National Capital Region (NCR) and Pune) has slipped at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 8% in the last six years. The sector has witnessed a decline in area booked and area launched over the last few years. Developers have been majorly focusing on mid-category/luxury/premium housing projects. This has created a wide gap in demand-supply dynamics, resulting in pent-up demand for affordable housing units and a huge unsold inventory of unaffordable units across most micro markets. Respite is unlikely in near future as investors are out of the market and end users continue to wait for the right opportunity.

…Trend unlikely to change for at least 12-18 months

Pressure on residential real estate prices across top 10 cities was clearly visible during H1 2017. While several developers offered upfront per square feet discounts, a few large developers bundled financing schemes and reduced interest schemes to offer ‘all inclusive house prices’. Home buyers, in many cases, were also offered indirect benefits such as reduced floor charges or premium location charges. Taking into account these aspects, the effective price correction was 5-10%.
 

vivektrader

In persuit of financial independence.
Not seen Xray bro for a long time..hope he is keeping good health....

madank stopped posting as he is preparing for writing a book on trading.....short term loss for all of us... but long term we will get more ideas from his book when he gets it published...

ST
Sir, one of my relatives who is a businessman, 50year old, wants to invest in a way so as to get a fixed monthly income from 60years of age onwards, what are the best options in your view?
Thanks

Vivek
 
Sir, one of my relatives who is a businessman, 50year old, wants to invest in a way so as to get a fixed monthly income from 60years of age onwards, what are the best options in your view?
Thanks

Vivek
For next 10 years he can invest in multicap funds,large cap funds and also some portion in small and midcap funds....after 10 years ie after he becomes 60, he can opt for Systematic Withdrawal Plan in those mutual funds to get a fixed tax free income every month.

Smart_trade
 
For next 10 years he can invest in multicap funds,large cap funds and also some portion in small and midcap funds....after 10 years ie after he becomes 60, he can opt for Systematic Withdrawal Plan in those mutual funds to get a fixed tax free income every month.

Smart_trade
https://www.advisorkhoj.com/article...formance-by-DSP-BlackRock-Top-100-Equity-Fund

Article on SWP.....any good fund will give similar results. As a thumb rule one should not withdraw more than 6 % of the fund value in a year...so for a 50,000 monthly income one must have 1 Cr in SWP. This is conservative but will ensure that the fund will last for long period even in bad times.

ST
 

XRAY27

Well-Known Member
Not seen Xray bro for a long time..hope he is keeping good health....

madank stopped posting as he is preparing for writing a book on trading.....short term loss for all of us... but long term we will get more ideas from his book when he gets it published...

ST
Da !!! Every thing was fine !!! just on psy drill with respective to swing trading till March 2018 !!! , hope i finish it successfully and move to normal qty from April series !!
 

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