saint sir...i really appreciate the way in which u keep helping others and i still remember you saying that dont let the profits or the money made go above your head....but sadly i see people really developing the " Im the best" ego into themselves.Not for them but atleast to learners like me you need to be a teacher......In case you really want to quit this thread i would request you to start a new thread in which learners like me would fit in...Hope the learning continues....
Going With The 60min Flow!!!
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TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANTS TO DISRUPT THIS BEAUTIFUL THREAD
why dont u try these stunts in other threads started by CV or OXY or CZAR..(these are the only ones cuming to my mind).do u have the guts??????
ull be insulted in such a way & in such a manner tht ur pants will drop to the ground & ull never mak the mistake of doing it again.
its not tht those people are bad & sarcastic...its wht u deserve.
80% of the people here are not trading...they want to see & learn..
fine.....
many more are paper trading....fine....
& suddenly out of these very people 1 jumps up & says saint is wrong...
not accepted at all..........
frankly speaking none of these people earn 5% of saint is earning...sorry for tht, but thts the truth....
so how on earth u have a right to criticise saint...
its high time sum modifications are done to this traderji platform
1)lock these imp threads by a password.
2)password will be given only by the thread starter & u can read the contents & post only if u have the password.without the password u cant see anything.
3)if the thread starter feels any1 is creating confusion purposely,then he can throw tht person out of the thread.
I SENSE SUMTHING LIKE THIS WUD HAPPEN IN THE MINIFLOW THREAD ALSO.
got to go but will write more later 2dy....
wht is happenin is ridiculuos
why dont u try these stunts in other threads started by CV or OXY or CZAR..(these are the only ones cuming to my mind).do u have the guts??????
ull be insulted in such a way & in such a manner tht ur pants will drop to the ground & ull never mak the mistake of doing it again.
its not tht those people are bad & sarcastic...its wht u deserve.
80% of the people here are not trading...they want to see & learn..
fine.....
many more are paper trading....fine....
& suddenly out of these very people 1 jumps up & says saint is wrong...
not accepted at all..........
frankly speaking none of these people earn 5% of saint is earning...sorry for tht, but thts the truth....
so how on earth u have a right to criticise saint...
its high time sum modifications are done to this traderji platform
1)lock these imp threads by a password.
2)password will be given only by the thread starter & u can read the contents & post only if u have the password.without the password u cant see anything.
3)if the thread starter feels any1 is creating confusion purposely,then he can throw tht person out of the thread.
I SENSE SUMTHING LIKE THIS WUD HAPPEN IN THE MINIFLOW THREAD ALSO.
got to go but will write more later 2dy....
wht is happenin is ridiculuos
Saint, Accept my apologies if I have hurt you!!! Had no intention...was responding to Bees responce to Inspire!!!! The post by Bee also indicates almost the same thing as understood by me!!! He was also asking Inspire why was he mixing mini flow here!!! I had also understood (not interpreted , please) that we use these breakdowns etc. in intraday trade only!!!
It is not about interpretation Saint, because if we have to interpret something than the strength of it is gone as the interpretation of ot would be gone!!! Its about 'knowing' something, understanding something and acting accordingly!!!
I went through the New rules again, there is nothing mentioned about the type of situation we maneuvered the day before!!! I remember in a reply to a query of mine in mini flow you had mentioned something akin to what follows :
We do not trade the Pivots only here, that is in 60 min. flow...both methods are different!!!
On other occassion here you had guided me by telling me to focus of higher PL, higher PL, higher PL when we are long!!! So it was something new to follow on Friday!!! Dont know how many would have w/o your guidance.
I also went through thre New rules posted. You have also reiterated that only the rules about Pivots and gaps have changed and nothing else!!! Even in anumber of charts posted by you over a period of months we never came across any such situation hence had my view that you must have incorporated it recently and I might have missed it!!!
One more thing , in your respoce to rh6996 you have mentioned :
rh6996 had written :
I do not know what he means by saying this is the effort in that direction but do understand he does not represent all of us here!!!!
All I can request is that its still time b4 u removed urself from the trades here!!!
Sorry again!!!
It is not about interpretation Saint, because if we have to interpret something than the strength of it is gone as the interpretation of ot would be gone!!! Its about 'knowing' something, understanding something and acting accordingly!!!
I went through the New rules again, there is nothing mentioned about the type of situation we maneuvered the day before!!! I remember in a reply to a query of mine in mini flow you had mentioned something akin to what follows :
We do not trade the Pivots only here, that is in 60 min. flow...both methods are different!!!
On other occassion here you had guided me by telling me to focus of higher PL, higher PL, higher PL when we are long!!! So it was something new to follow on Friday!!! Dont know how many would have w/o your guidance.
I also went through thre New rules posted. You have also reiterated that only the rules about Pivots and gaps have changed and nothing else!!! Even in anumber of charts posted by you over a period of months we never came across any such situation hence had my view that you must have incorporated it recently and I might have missed it!!!
One more thing , in your respoce to rh6996 you have mentioned :
rh6996 had written :
I do not know what he means by saying this is the effort in that direction but do understand he does not represent all of us here!!!!
All I can request is that its still time b4 u removed urself from the trades here!!!
Sorry again!!!
Vikarm responding to your post as you have used 'plurals' above about people trying to disrupt this thread!!! Praying that I am not included as one!!!!
Vikram, if post by Inspire and my post were construed to be among the disruptions then you need to 'rethink'!!! I would treat Inspires post as most genuine and answer to his query would help all others here to learn or reaffirm a rule!!! He had rightly asked if we reversed on breakdown of wrb upside breakout then why not reverse again on failure of downside breakout of WRB!! His query was questioned by Beethoven to which I responded!!!! Do you also think that Inspire was wrong to ask, or I was wrong to respond to Beethoven!!!!????????????
Frankly feel you too have over reacted!!!! As far as rh6996 is concerned
I am sure he is a medical case!!!
I might coincidently have same doubts as rh6996 has (as Saint said , "for once we are on the same page") but I do not at all subscribe to the way he has raised them!!! He sent me 10 PM's and then says Pms to you getting bounced, need to block him!!! But Vikram please do not paint all with the same brush just becoz of one!!!
It is not about calling Saint wrong!!!! I myself have done it several times!!!! It how you present yourself, how you call Saint wrong!!!
I questioned him citing two situations similar to my eyes where different actions were taken by Saint, ofcourse I was calling Saint to have 'wronged' in either of the place!!! Saint promptly points out the subtle difference and the reason for different actions in situation that seem similar but are different!! Yes I was calling Saint wrong but in a different way!!!!
Its something like calling someone ," You are a liar!!"
or
telling him," You seem not to have the correct assesment of the situation!!!"
We are telling the person he is wrong in both the sentences but just see the difference!!!!
I have already apologised to Saint and would not mind removing my Post in respoce to Beethoven!!!
Vikram, if post by Inspire and my post were construed to be among the disruptions then you need to 'rethink'!!! I would treat Inspires post as most genuine and answer to his query would help all others here to learn or reaffirm a rule!!! He had rightly asked if we reversed on breakdown of wrb upside breakout then why not reverse again on failure of downside breakout of WRB!! His query was questioned by Beethoven to which I responded!!!! Do you also think that Inspire was wrong to ask, or I was wrong to respond to Beethoven!!!!????????????
Frankly feel you too have over reacted!!!! As far as rh6996 is concerned
I am sure he is a medical case!!!
I might coincidently have same doubts as rh6996 has (as Saint said , "for once we are on the same page") but I do not at all subscribe to the way he has raised them!!! He sent me 10 PM's and then says Pms to you getting bounced, need to block him!!! But Vikram please do not paint all with the same brush just becoz of one!!!
It is not about calling Saint wrong!!!! I myself have done it several times!!!! It how you present yourself, how you call Saint wrong!!!
I questioned him citing two situations similar to my eyes where different actions were taken by Saint, ofcourse I was calling Saint to have 'wronged' in either of the place!!! Saint promptly points out the subtle difference and the reason for different actions in situation that seem similar but are different!! Yes I was calling Saint wrong but in a different way!!!!
Its something like calling someone ," You are a liar!!"
or
telling him," You seem not to have the correct assesment of the situation!!!"
We are telling the person he is wrong in both the sentences but just see the difference!!!!
I have already apologised to Saint and would not mind removing my Post in respoce to Beethoven!!!
Friends, my observation on proceedings of last couple of days in this thread are as under :
1) I find that there is nothing wrong in debating on a point or raising a doubt or even having a different view than that of Saint as without this healthy questioning our progress will stop and we will be reduced to mere "Yes Sirs".But the language my friends in some post is some thing which Saint does not deserve at all. All of us acknoledge that much of our progress is due to the relentless efforts taken by Saint
2) As the thread has matured,some people may have outgrown this thread and are already on their feet.They can have a courage of conviction and trade as per their own understanding.If this has happened,it is the greatest success of Saint and his teachings. But again my learned friends,be little kind in your language.
3) We all come from cultures where teachers are respected ( this is different from blindly following them).We also have some difference of opinion with our elders in our family but do we use unkind language to express our opinion ?
4) Let our querries be in a language and tone of asking something to learn which we are not understanding and not that of criticising and one- up- man ship. From the tone of some posts it is not a genuine doubt but disrespect and ridicule coming out .
The goose that was laying golden eggs ( in terms of Saint's watchful eye and timely intervention if we were making mistakes during trading time ) will lay golden egg only on weekends now and we are the net loosers in this process.
and I feel sad with this happening.
Smart_trade
1) I find that there is nothing wrong in debating on a point or raising a doubt or even having a different view than that of Saint as without this healthy questioning our progress will stop and we will be reduced to mere "Yes Sirs".But the language my friends in some post is some thing which Saint does not deserve at all. All of us acknoledge that much of our progress is due to the relentless efforts taken by Saint
2) As the thread has matured,some people may have outgrown this thread and are already on their feet.They can have a courage of conviction and trade as per their own understanding.If this has happened,it is the greatest success of Saint and his teachings. But again my learned friends,be little kind in your language.
3) We all come from cultures where teachers are respected ( this is different from blindly following them).We also have some difference of opinion with our elders in our family but do we use unkind language to express our opinion ?
4) Let our querries be in a language and tone of asking something to learn which we are not understanding and not that of criticising and one- up- man ship. From the tone of some posts it is not a genuine doubt but disrespect and ridicule coming out .
The goose that was laying golden eggs ( in terms of Saint's watchful eye and timely intervention if we were making mistakes during trading time ) will lay golden egg only on weekends now and we are the net loosers in this process.
and I feel sad with this happening.
Smart_trade
But getting increasingly fatigued by the old hands that refuse to accept change.
No,my friend,you don't mean to criticise me........you mean to laugh at others for not criticising me.
I had said that I would be helping this thread out in the initial phases through the recent change...........Believe me when I tell you that I am finding it difficult to manage all that I do.I did it only to help the process in the initial phases.
I was wrong!
The trade was off a breakdown from the congestion......not because of some failed WRB breakout pattern.You have it dead wrong there,my friend!!
Because there was no amendment.....no changes........Kanchan,think you need a re-look ......You see not and blast those who see,.....my friend,a bit of humility is something that you need........I am prepared to help you see what I see,but your words are too strong,too sarcastic.......if indeed you have that small amount of respect for me in some way,the way you post needs correcting,needs change......your "what" is not the issue,your "how" is!
Not to worry.....Saint will remove himself from all trades done here.
Never,my friend,never........I live by my Rules and I die by my rules....They have had to be fine tuned,and tweaked,.......but I stick by them.One has to ask himself.....Did I deviate?Or didn't you understand?
It is sad though.........but the amount that I have been criticised within this thread leaves a bitter feeling in the mouth.
Anyway,no big deal........wanted to make sure that people could stand on their own feet..........seems that it is already achieved and no further involvement from me is required.
Wishing you all the very best!
Saint
ps:I will no more post in this thread,except on weekends......Then,I am going to post here the trades that should have been over the week......And we can then compare notes.
No,my friend,you don't mean to criticise me........you mean to laugh at others for not criticising me.
I had said that I would be helping this thread out in the initial phases through the recent change...........Believe me when I tell you that I am finding it difficult to manage all that I do.I did it only to help the process in the initial phases.
I was wrong!
The trade was off a breakdown from the congestion......not because of some failed WRB breakout pattern.You have it dead wrong there,my friend!!
Because there was no amendment.....no changes........Kanchan,think you need a re-look ......You see not and blast those who see,.....my friend,a bit of humility is something that you need........I am prepared to help you see what I see,but your words are too strong,too sarcastic.......if indeed you have that small amount of respect for me in some way,the way you post needs correcting,needs change......your "what" is not the issue,your "how" is!
Not to worry.....Saint will remove himself from all trades done here.
Never,my friend,never........I live by my Rules and I die by my rules....They have had to be fine tuned,and tweaked,.......but I stick by them.One has to ask himself.....Did I deviate?Or didn't you understand?
It is sad though.........but the amount that I have been criticised within this thread leaves a bitter feeling in the mouth.
Anyway,no big deal........wanted to make sure that people could stand on their own feet..........seems that it is already achieved and no further involvement from me is required.
Wishing you all the very best!
Saint
ps:I will no more post in this thread,except on weekends......Then,I am going to post here the trades that should have been over the week......And we can then compare notes.
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Saint sir,
I am paper trading this method but trading with real money in mini flow.If you stopped to post in 60 then how can we learn (Like me) the method.Sir, dont hear the experience /very great /well knowledged peoples words.they are comes and go.But how much are benifited by your method(learn fishing) are too many like me.so please dont go to their posts.If you PM with some one then how we learn without your teachings in this thread.
Sir,please..............
Apologise for mistakes in words i am very weak in english.
Thanks and regards
VJAY
I am paper trading this method but trading with real money in mini flow.If you stopped to post in 60 then how can we learn (Like me) the method.Sir, dont hear the experience /very great /well knowledged peoples words.they are comes and go.But how much are benifited by your method(learn fishing) are too many like me.so please dont go to their posts.If you PM with some one then how we learn without your teachings in this thread.
Sir,please..............
Apologise for mistakes in words i am very weak in english.
Thanks and regards
VJAY
But we are the loosers if saint sir stopped to guide us.You seniours allready got the knowledge and you people think you are gone above teacher.But teacher is guru .if you not able to respect them then you are unusable with their teachings.
Sir,
If you still think to give posts only in weekend please change it to everday after trading hour.It is helpfull to us (Like me newbies) learn and find our wrongs.
Regards
VJAY
Sir,
If you still think to give posts only in weekend please change it to everday after trading hour.It is helpfull to us (Like me newbies) learn and find our wrongs.
Regards
VJAY
You are not weak in communication VJAY,I second you on behalf of many in this thread to request Saint not to bother about a few disturbing posts(you just ignore them and dont react to them ) and please continue the teachings in this thread. Let us hope the learning flow is not disturbed because of some WRBs in unkind langauge.
Smart_trade
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