Going with the Intraday Mini-Flow!!

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MJ have these results been recorded with adds also, if yes then how many adds to initial positions?
Yes adds include. I think just one add.
These are my results so The actual figures may be wayy off the mark but this is what I got last night.

One major thing is amiss here, I have NOT included the exiting of a trade once Risk=current price. Its all out and reverse.
If any confusions please ask, Im always there just like you were when I was lost.

MJ-
 

Prabhjeet

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Yes adds include. I think just one add.
These are my results so The actual figures may be wayy off the mark but this is what I got last night.

One major thing is amiss here, I have NOT included the exiting of a trade once Risk=current price. Its all out and reverse.
If any confusions please ask, Im always there just like you were when I was lost.MJ-
Lost?? Cant remember the time you were lost, you always have been innovative, thanks anyway
 

rkkarnani

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Pakatil for having profits from these kind of scenarios we already have 60 min. flow method, we have to keep day trading seperated from positional one.

Also I think that with this intraday method we will also be able to take the advantage of days when there is a big gap opening in the direction of ongoing trend, when following 60 min. we could just see the whole day move coming against us and all we could do was to just sit on hands and wait for a pivot to form.

Its good with intraday now, we attack markets from all the directions :D
Yes, really helpful for the 60 minutes positinal trader to trade intraday when mkt is going against the 60 min. trend, and SAR is far off!!!
Read an excellent article on this aspect, lost somewhere on my PC!! :D
Shall try to find and post it!!!
Thanks!!!
 
Dear Saint

I am your latest admirer. I have been following all your systems and trading pretty decently with it. Ofcourse I have been sticking to trading only with my initial lot of 10 but never added to it as the trade progresses.

Can you please tell me about the correct add points after the initial trade is taken off the first 5 min bar.
 

rkkarnani

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(Copied from the Net)

DAY TRADE VS POSITION TRADE

For years, the arguments have gone up and back: which is better,
day trading or position trading?

We have heard many day traders say they prefer day trading
because that way they leave less money lying on the table.

They bemoan the plight of the poor position trader who is unable to
extricate himself from a bad trade as quickly as can the day trader.

They are of the opinion that they are able to extract profits quickly,
while they are available. They enjoy the thrill of daily combat in the
market place. Day traders also are of the opinion that they have
more opportunities than do position traders.

Finally, and importantly, day traders feel comfortable in not holding any positions overnight, and therefore are able to sleep without fear that they will awaken to some horrible unexpected gap in prices that will wipe out any profits that may have accrued, and which could result in a huge loss.


Of course, position traders hold just the opposite view. They feel that it is the day trader who is leaving the most money lying on the table.
They feel that day trading erodes their capital base with excessive transaction costs.
They pity the day trader who has to fight his way into a trending market numerous times throughout the day, often getting badly beaten up for his trouble, whereas they, the position traders, get to take advantage of the longer term trend.
Position traders are not burdened with sitting in front of a screen throughout
the day.
They would rather be free to enjoy other aspects of life, and avoid the frantic trading often required of day traders.
Position traders contend that with so many choices from which to choose,
there is no lack of opportunity for entering well-thought out, well planned trades.

Finally, position traders take great comfort in knowing that when a market truly begins to trend and yields huge rewards relative to risk, that they will be in the market and will not miss the move.

Who is right? They are both right, or they are both wrong. It depends upon your point of view and where you are most comfortable.


The choice of time interval in which to trade is a function of comfort level:
economic comfort level,
emotional comfort level, or
psychological comfort level, or maybe all three.

It is also a function of financial capability and trading acumen.
It is the knowledgeable trader who makes the most money.
The trader who knows himself, knows how to read a chart, and is
knowledgeable about the inner workings of the markets makes the
most money, but even then, only if his knowledge is accompanied by :
disciplined action, disciplined decision making, and sufficient capital to comfortably support his style of trading and the time frame in which he attempts to trade. Sometimes a combination of both day trading and position trading is in order.

Combining the two may be a good strategy for the position trader attempting to optimize his entries to and exits from the market by day trading an intraday chart at the specific times of entry and exit.

Combining the two may be a good strategy for the day trader who
determines to hold a winning position overnight in those situations
where a protective stop loss is able to be moved to where it is a profit protecting position.

Each trader will have to give up something in order to gain a feature enjoyed by the other.

For example, the day trader will have to give up not holding overnight and miss being able to enjoy the benefits of the longer term trend.
The position trader, provided he has the time and ability to monitor
the market during the day, will have to acquiesce to being tied to a
screen for whatever amount of time it takes to day trade his entries
and exits in an attempt to optimize them. If unable to watch during
the day, it will be rather difficult to optimize entries and exits.
Let's take a look at each of these propositions to see how such a
trading philosophy might work out.

(Sorry the article is Incomplete!!!) :D
 
Long back I had read some articles written by Buffy on price action which discussed the concepts of trends and pivots.I never thought these very basic concepts can be used to trade markets profitably.I wasted a lot of time on high funda stuff which I still dont understand.

Surprisingly,after joining "Traderji", I found Saint using these very basic knowledge to trade profitably in all time frames.Monthly to 5 minutes .Now I understand it is the skill and knowledge of the trader to convert a concept to a trading system that counts.

There are hundreds of ways to pull out money from the market and all these concepts are not secrets.All these knowledge is in public domain.But unfortunately most of us lack the skill and ability to design a trading system based on these concepts.

Dear Saint, Thank you very much for all the great wisdom you have taught us.Really wonder about the patience you are showing by repeatedly answering all our foolish questions.

Sir, You really deserve many big rounds of applause.

 
Hi Saint,

I was looking through September trades and I am confused about 2nd Sept.

Your testing shows LONG at 4388, high of 11:30 - 4374 + 14 = 4388.
Now 11:00 bar low is 4370 and HIGH is 4393, so short should be taken at 4370 - 7 = 4363 (MOVE 2), but was not taken. Any reason???

I thought this way because on 5th sept first trade is SHORT at 4354 i.e. LOW of 11:30 bar 4361 - 7 = 4354 (MOVE 2). Move 1 was 4 bars up including the 1st 5 min bar.

This gave me a feeling of that the filter depends upon 1st 30 min bar. if it's positive then filter for LONG is 14 and 7 for SHORT and then keep on doing this till we are in trade. Vice versa for -ve 30 min bar.


Let me know if I have misunderstood anything here.

Thanks,
Amit
 
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