Going with the Intraday Mini-Flow!!

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Saint,Kindly answer my following doubt,

I observe that you trade in 3-4 scrips in your daytrades.Your stops are pretty wide .Suppose I bought nifty 6 lots depending on 2 % risk on my capital,the nifty moves a little in my favour but not enough to trail my stoploss up. Now the Rel Cap trade comes but my money mgt does not allow me to take this trade as if the mkt suddenly reverses,then Rel Cap and nifty both losses put togather will be over 2 %.

I found that most trades trigger nearabout simultaneously. How do I take more trades without compromising on money management ? Always have this dilema !!!

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Reji

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Today's Trades:

a.Bought 6 lots at 4197,added 4 at 4237......Bought avg of 4217,Sold at an avg of 4255.(+19k)

b.Bought 4 L&t AT 2621,sold at 2656....(+7k)
c.Bought 3 RELCAP at 1217,sold at 1268(+21k)

This week is done.......our initial cap of 10 is now 12.12.

Risk per trade as per 12.12 as of Monday...

Saint
Sold 2/5th NF at 4246

Saint
Sold 1/5th more NF 4275

Saint
Out last 2/5th at 4256

Saint

Hi All, :)
An effort to plot Saint's trade on chart. Not at all sure whether correct or not



Regards

Reji
 
LOOOOOOONG WAIT !!!Everybody logging in after every hour to check whether Saint has posted the intraday system.I am checking every 10 min . Saint take yr time no hurry just describing everybodys anxiousness !!!

Smart_trade
 
Nice effort!!!!!! But the most important ingredient is missing!!!! Yes friends : The stop loss!!! :)
Saint had not revealed his SL's!!! He had clearly mentioned that the levels were for watching only and not trading as he himself is probably fine tuning it to its best configuration useful for all and sundry!!!
All the best!!!!
Based on Saint's method, the SL levels look pretty obvious on the 10min chart posted by reji..

Looking at the chart, Saint would be havinginitial SL at roughly 4140, with the stop moved to 4165, 4180 & 4220 as the day progressed..

The adds are also pretty easy to see and figure out.. What I have not been able to understand is the logic behind the partial profit taking.. Saint, do you use any set method for the profit taking, or is it based on some discretionary rule?

Here is my understanding behind the NF trades done by Saint yesterday:
1. Since there was a gap up, Saint looked at going long after the high of the first 5 mins were to be taken out. I suppose he did not look at going long as the 60 min flow was in uptrend.
2. Now the market went slightly sideways and started to form pivots.. At this point, i guess Saint had been looking at the market to decide and most probably had 2 SL orders, one for going long and one for going short after the first 2 pivots were formed. Whichever order got filled first defined the position and the other acted as the stop loss. Or maybe Saint, looking at the 60 min flow decided to only take a long trade and waited for the same to be confirmed by the market.
3. Once in market, it was a matter of waiting for the pivots to form and to trail the SL up.
4. The first add came at days opening high + room, I suppose this trade was taken because by this time the SL had moved higher and the money management rules allowed adding to the position.
5. After this, the market moved up w/o allowing for the SL to get up, so Saint booked partial profits at various points. Now one logic I see for the partial profits is to look at a lower time frame chart and then book partial profits once the pivots on the shorter timeframe charts get broken or when there is a drop of some percentage points.. I have yet to figure the logic behind the profit taking done by Saint.

I think those of us who have intraday data for backtesting can check past charts and use these trade examples to come up with a system.. For all of us who are trying to learn this system, it would be an interesting exercise to use older data to come up with some rules of our own over the next few days and then compare the systems with that of Saint.

-- no1lives4ever
PS: I am only trying to analyze loud what Saint might have done and I can be completely wrong. Saint, pls give some insights onto your trades..
 
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ratan jain

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LOOOOOOONG WAIT !!!Everybody logging in after every hour to check whether Saint has posted the intraday system.I am checking every 10 min . Saint take yr time no hurry just describing everybodys anxiousness !!!

Smart_trade
WHAT!!!!!!

You mean that you are not clicking the refresh button every 30 seconds? 10 minutes!

Really... I dont trade intraday but am curious to know the rules, maybe can incorporate some ideas into my system....

Eagerly looking forward to the rules, and yes Saint, because of your announcement, there go my dinner plans!
 

VJAY

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LOOOOOOONG WAIT !!!Everybody logging in after every hour to check whether Saint has posted the intraday system.I am checking every 10 min . Saint take yr time no hurry just describing everybodys anxiousness !!!

Smart_trade
Same here dear Smart_trade.I am checking it in every 15 minutes since morning.But Saint sir you take your own time.It is only stundets anxious waiting to learn some thing new...........
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VJAY
 
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Niks

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Saint,

the more time you take in defining the system before presenting it to us, the better it is likely to be. Please take your time :)

rehards,
Nikhil.
 
Same here dear Smart_trade.I am checking it in every 15 minutes since morning.But Saint sir you take your own time.It is only stundets anxious waiting to learn some thing new...........
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VJAY
Hi Vijay,

We unanimously authorise you to keep checking but be prepared to be awake well past midnight !!!:D

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VJAY

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i want to post my new msg on this site can anybody tell me how to do it

Hai.I think you want to create new thread.Go for any forum which you want to post your thread there click New thread tab.

VJAY
 
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