how much return you expect from commodity market

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short was open in aluminium mini at 113/75 on 20th june with a stop loss of 115/40 then113/90 114/30 114/60 114/30 113/80 113/80 113/90 114/00 113/90 113/70 113/10 112/80 on 5th july short was closed at 111/30 and long was open as stop loss of 110/30 on 6th 111/70 for long on 7th112.10 on 8th 111/80 112/00
on saturday(only natural gas data pending)
Sir, if possible please explain the move to move trading concept also - the one that was not discussed earlier due to lack of "post readers" interest
 
s.l.lead long 9 july is 119/00
short was open in zink on 9th july at 105/95 and its stop loss is
107/20 for short position
how to use end of day stop loss
now we all are not intraday trader but we are position trader and trading on end of day basis,so we need not bother what is happening in the price of any commodity during day,so if price go blow our stop loss during the day,we need not worry,our decision is just connected with the closing price of the day,either we will take our decision next morning or same night at 11.28 p.m,if closing is coming below our stop loss then we will close the trade.rest their are very minute steps which we follow while using stop losses,which i will explain later but you should remember basic rule first
Understood the above concept clearly.I think most of the traders loose their money because they will enter the market with the mentality to become lakhpatis/crorepatis in a very short span of time (90% i guess are intraday traders) and also lacks in knowledge of money management.Within few days they will be frustrated of the market.

"Dekha jaye to market itni bhi buri nahi ha" I think - "Rome was not built in a day" theory applies here also.Patience,hardwork,strategy all plays a good role in long run.

Thanks.
 

ayush2020

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short was open in aluminium mini at 113/75 on 20th june with a stop loss of 115/40 then113/90 114/30 114/60 114/30 113/80 113/80 113/90 114/00 113/90 113/70 113/10 112/80 on 5th july short was closed at 111/30 and long was open as stop loss of 110/30 on 6th 111/70 for long on 7th112.10 on 8th 111/80 112/00
on saturday(only natural gas data pending)
hello BOSS,

gone out of town and i was traveling and back today only..yes will work on this spread sheet...

as soon as i will try to catch up ..
Thanx for your support
 

cotton

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i will give rest of the THREE(FOR NICKEL I HAVE GIVEN DATA) tommorow ,i just want that price data and stop loss data should be complete after that i will have to give only one entry every day to complete spread sheet,rest i will explain to you that what caculations you will have to do to fill other column of the sheet,basically balance work of analysis will be at your end,you can under stand now that once your spread sheet will be complete,the full picture of the ASHWANI CHADHAS SPREAD SHEET TRADING SYSTEM WILL BE CLEAR TO YOU,SINCE THIS IS A PART OF MY BOOK ONCE ALL THE REGULAR READER ,WHOM NAMES I HAVE MENTIONED IN MY FIRST POST ON THIS SYSTEM, WILL NOTE DOWN THE SYSTEM AND THEIR SPREAD SHEET WILL BE COMPLETE,I AM GOING TO REMOVE MOST OFF THE MATERIAL WHICH IS A PART OF MY BOOK WITH IN A DAY OR SO THANKS
Ashwani can you pls tell which post you started the same..will work on it and see...

Thanks
 
I have always used mental stop loss only till date.Only problem was to hold the contract even after hitting the stop loss and waiting for a miracle to happen (but pullbacks occur very rarely :)
But now the trading rules are changed :)
pull back come every day without fail,once spread sheet will be complete you will under stand how you have to catch these pull back,but when move is going to close you can not expect pull back
 
Understood the above concept clearly.I think most of the traders loose their money because they will enter the market with the mentality to become lakhpatis/crorepatis in a very short span of time (90% i guess are intraday traders) and also lacks in knowledge of money management.Within few days they will be frustrated of the market.

"Dekha jaye to market itni bhi buri nahi ha" I think - "Rome was not built in a day" theory applies here also.Patience,hardwork,strategy all plays a good role in long run.

Thanks.
everi thing u said is 100% perfect ,remember ver shortli u all will be one winner against 1000 looser in the market.this is the real ratio of winner v/s looser

ONE WINNER EATS THE PROFIT OF 999 LOOSER,THIS IS RULE OF THUMB OF THE MARKET
AND THERE IS NO MID WAY ALSO .EITHER YOU WILL BE PART OF WINNERS HUNDERED OR YOU WILL BE PART OF LOOSERS AGAINST THEM ONE LAKH !!!!!
 
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