how much return you expect from commodity market

[ashwani chadha]

TO. MELISSA 1991.dont try to earn first & learn next,to go long in n.gas was a very bad decision on your part,it is in long term short trend,it was a just one day correction,when you were caught.eod traders will hold short with a stop loss of 199.40 on monday,swing traders will try to go long in it , when it will break its lower resistance of 198, if it does not open gap down on monday,that again will be a minor correction on the long side,you have to save your self during that correction if loss is tollrable.n.gas is a highly manipulated counter,even expert professional fear to trade it.dont trade n.gas/crude/silver-till you are not expert.with the same amount which still you saved from market,you can trade in 3 lots at a time,each lot require app.margin of 7000/-these lots are gold mini /zink mini/lead mini, these are less volatile.firstly trade in one lot,if it gives you more then 1000/- profit then add next and same way if both these ,give you 3000/=profit only then add the third,try to protect you capital,dont over trade.this is called money management,if you will save your capital only then you will survive in the market& if you will survive only then you will learn furthur,best of luck

 

[ashwani chadha]

mr rohan,4/5 % MONTHLY RETURN IS A VERY GOOD MONTHLY RETURN ON EXPOSER ,NOT ON CAPITAL,WE ARE 20 TIME LEVERAGED,SO IF ON EXPOSER ,THEN YOUR CAPITAL SHOULD DOUBLE IN A MONTH ,I THINK NOT POSSIBLE.PLEASE CLEARE YOUR CONCEPT OF INCOME THANKS

 

[hoticecube]

Hey akash,
Thanks for the advice. I really value it. But I have also heard that technical details can also fail. So now what to rely on ? Evryday after knowing the market more i seriously feel its just gambling.
P.S : What do you suggest about Holding or Exiting Natural gas. I have bought @ 201.20
Saturday closing : 197.20
Thanks

first of all...this is NOT gambling..its ur thinking which makes it gambling...if u'll think that this is all gambling..u'll do it lyk gambling only....u shud think of it as an investment opportunity and a bussiness which gives instant return...and yeah..sooo many people earn their living from this...they wont be able to do it if they'll think of it as gambling..n ya i dnt think anyone wants to earn fr their family and children JUST frm gambling...so..i think u shud jst get this thing out of ur mind first...

2nd thing...nuthng is fool proof in this game...anything and anyone can fail....u jst have to keep on trying different methods...n ya..thats why "stop loss" is made....n..i didnt say DO NOT READ news..i said..do not RELY MUCH on news..! coz there are some people in d market who play against d market.....>operators!!! if there is ALOT of news that a commodity will go up...there are to some extent chances that it will go the opposite way...why? becoz of d operators..they c d positions of masses n take d market d opposite way..so u have to beware n put a stop loss in every trade....i think wat u shud do is....read some news...c some charts....historical data....c d sentiments of d market...c d weather...some demand supply knowledge...n thn do a sum up...n c wt u shud go fr...long or short...WITH a stop loss...!!

3rd...i dnt really do in natural gas..so i dnt have much of an idea of it....u can go to smc's website n jst have a look at wt they think of it...or other people here can give u some thoughts on it...

4th... n d most important....THIS IS ALL WAT I THINK!!... u wud be having sme diffenrent mind set...so u have to look fr it.....

thnks
Akash

 

[sumeetsj]

Hey akash,
Thanks for the advice. I really value it. But I have also heard that technical details can also fail. So now what to rely on ? Evryday after knowing the market more i seriously feel its just gambling.
P.S : What do you suggest about Holding or Exiting Natural gas. I have bought @ 201.20
Saturday closing : 197.20
Thanks

Why come to stock/commodity market if u feel its a gamble ?
Take a position and then go on asking ppl about is even worse than gambling i feel.
At least in gambling everyones expectations are set right.
I think what Ashwani said is correct, Learn first and then earn later.
Not meant any personal offences here..

 

[ashwani chadha]

multi time frame system study result for monday 7/2/11!after going through the depth of current position of various commodities, i rechead at a conclusion that four commodities copper/nickel/zink/lead has entered in bull zone again after 6 o clock friday,so if some one has already entered long in these,then he should hold his long with trailing stop loss as mentioned below,if he has not taken he can take & hold these with below mentioned stop loses after using his own judgement also.IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN END OF DAY TRADING ONLY THEN USE THESE STOP LOSES,INTRA DAY TRADERS & SWING TRADERS SHOULD NOT FOLLOW THESE STOP LOSES.these stop losses are based on a system ,which will keep you in the move,till the move is in momtem ,in this system move is closed only when the stop loss is trigered,this is a mathematically trading system,if some body will request ,he can ask regarding stoploss of any next day, in which commodity he is positioned,this is just a social work for me.(1)copper feb initial move started 27/1 at 431/90 s/L for 7/2/11 456/10(2)zink mini feb initial move started 104/90 on 28/1/11 s/L FOR MONDAY 111/90(3)LEAD feb initial move started on 27/1/11 at 111/00 s/L FOR MONDAY 116/50current prices of saturday closing are copper 464/65 -lead mini 118/70-zink mini-114/10, best of luck for monday trading to all viewers.

 

[melissa1991]

TO. MELISSA 1991.dont try to earn first & learn next,to go long in n.gas was a very bad decision on your part,it is in long term short trend,it was a just one day correction,when you were caught.eod traders will hold short with a stop loss of 199.40 on monday,swing traders will try to go long in it , when it will break its lower resistance of 198, if it does not open gap down on monday,that again will be a minor correction on the long side,you have to save your self during that correction if loss is tollrable.n.gas is a highly manipulated counter,even expert professional fear to trade it.dont trade n.gas/crude/silver-till you are not expert.with the same amount which still you saved from market,you can trade in 3 lots at a time,each lot require app.margin of 7000/-these lots are gold mini /zink mini/lead mini, these are less volatile.firstly trade in one lot,if it gives you more then 1000/- profit then add next and same way if both these ,give you 3000/=profit only then add the third,try to protect you capital,dont over trade.this is called money management,if you will save your capital only then you will survive in the market& if you will survive only then you will learn furthur,best of luck

thanks a lot ashwani...
bt im a student of financial marketing as of now. n i hve theoretical knowledge....hence i strtd marketin n thout of getin sum practical knowlege as well..evryone tells me to adopt technical analysis bt how to adopt it no1 tells me..
2ndly i hv my account wid angel broking n dey provide me wid a limit of 2times nt mre dan dat..so if ur telin me 2 strt trading in zinc mini lead mini etc i wont get dat much exposure..as angel allows nly 2times exposure. trading in 3lots iz out of questionda technique dat ur explainin in dis thread i cannot use it as i dun hv da facilities ur tlkin abt. can u plz tel me whch broking company can provide dese facilities???den maybe i can strt trading again. i hv limited investment as im nly a student and nt working.
regards melissa

 

[cotton]

Ashwani i have 3 lots of goldM at 20060...going long...next resistance should be around 20150..any suggestions...
thanks

 

[ashwani chadha]

dear cotton, i am also long in gold same leval res eod20163/eod spp 20023 weekly sp 20043,hold hope for the best.

 

[ashwani chadha]

to meelissa.join share khan broking for a/c opening 1000/ required they will give you 20 time leverage, trade in gold gunia only, for learning purpose you require800/ margin for one lot,they will provide free technicalno charges for their clints.once you open a/c i will give some eaist way to trade through technicals.you require 4000/ to trade in four lots throug share khan is not good!

 

[cotton]

dear cotton, i am also long in gold same leval res eod20163/eod spp 20023 weekly sp 20043,hold hope for the best.

Which trading house you use to trade..i trade with share khan but feel brokerage is too high..

Thanks
Saurabh