Low Risk Options Trading Strategy - Option Spreads

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AW10

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hello sir!

first i would really want to appreciate all the amazing work done by you.......
i am an avid trader of stock futures basically with 20 min. chart & i am quite successful in it. i have some questions for u & would be grateful if u look into it........

1. i want to hedge my stock future position with options . how much would time decay & volatility affect my position as i square off my position within 2-3 days ?
Suppose we are long on NIFTY and want to carry this Bullish position to next day. To hedge, we have to create bearish position. For this purpsoe, we have two choice, either buy Put or Sell Calls and craete bearish option position. Both are giving us protection against the fall. As a option buyer, time decay is working against us. .but as a seller, it works for us.

2. i want to try the bullish & bearish spreads with liquid stock options like tatamotors & reliance..... how much do u think it is feasible & plz correct me if i m wrong........

regards & happy trading.......
I am not sure, how liquid are Tatamotors options, but I have traded spread in Reliance options. As spread are directional trade, u can get ATM or atleast 1 strike close to ATM option spread at decent reward/risk ratio... i.e. 1.5 : 1. i.e create a spread at 12 to 15rs cost for max value of 30 giving you return of 15 to 18 risk.

You can create OTM spreads as well but you might miss few points extra in slippage cause OTM strike's have wide difference in bid/ask price.

Hope this helps.
Happy Trading
 

AW10

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Hi AW10,

what is difference between American and Europian options? what is their style and expiry pattern with respect to Indian options?

Also can you please elaborate the Exersise mechnism of indian options (Index and stock options)?

Regards,
Options settlement is of 3 type
- square-off in market at current price. No EOD settlement required but position is closed.
- Pre-expiry end of day excercise/ assigment - You place the order thru broker to execercise the ITM option. Broker forwards it to exchange and exchange randomly assign it to one of option writer. Exchange collects the money from writer/thru his borker,and forward it to your broker/to your acct.
- At-expiry day excercise/ assigment - On the day of expiry, exchange forecefully excercise all ITM option. Exchange randomly assign it to one of option writer. Exchange collects the money from writer/thru his borker,and forward it to your broker/to your acct.

All options are settled in cash in our mkt. but in US mkt, actual delivery of stocks is required for stock/etf options.

American style option (applicable to stocks in our mkt) can be settled using any of the 3 approaches.

European style options can't be excercised before expiry. Hence they are settled either by 1st of last approach given above.

Hope this clarifies some of the basics about settlement. Feel free to raise any further doubt.

Happy Trading.
 

AW10

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Thanks TT & AW10,

This has cleared my doubts.
Earlier I was under impression that risk reward ratio will be 1:2. ( 48 points: 96points)
But your explaination indicate it is ~1:1.10 (48points : 52points)
Is there any statergy which has risk reward ratio better than this?
That is upto you to findout by proper selection of strikes. If you go for
OTM spread and you might be able to generate 2.5:1 or 3:1 type of spread..but you need 200/300 points move to get maximmum benefit else it is difficult. Reward/risk always comes with tricky question of trade-off / probablity/ being right on many other factors etc.

As you start understanding more about options trading, it is possible to make money from market's money.. i.e. ZERO investment from your side..That gives u RRRatio of infinite. (I am keeping the secret with me here. Though I have discussed that startegy many times in TJ).

Happy Trading
 

trader.trends

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As you start understanding more about options trading, it is possible to make money from market's money.. i.e. ZERO investment from your side..That gives u RRRatio of infinite. (I am keeping the secret with me here. Though I have discussed that startegy many times in TJ).

Happy Trading
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fabrics

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That is upto you to findout by proper selection of strikes. If you go for
OTM spread and you might be able to generate 2.5:1 or 3:1 type of spread..but you need 200/300 points move to get maximmum benefit else it is difficult. Reward/risk always comes with tricky question of trade-off / probablity/ being right on many other factors etc.

As you start understanding more about options trading, it is possible to make money from market's money.. i.e. ZERO investment from your side..That gives u RRRatio of infinite. (I am keeping the secret with me here. Though I have discussed that startegy many times in TJ).

Happy Trading
We appreciate the reason for keeping zero investment formula secret.But do let me know the post in which u have discussed this strategy.I am an avid follower of ur posts but seemed to have missed out somewhere.
 

linkon7

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ZERO investment from your side..That gives u RR Ratio of infinite.
please do tell... or point to the post... or whisper in my ears...
 
Hi AW10,

what need to be make out when Nifty Future is traded with 20 to 40 points in discount now a days.. is there any thing here where we can find some apportuniity and take advantage? please give your views.

further, how this will become zero or in premium? is there actually a risk to go short as here more chances for NF to climb faster than spot?
 

trader.trends

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Hi AW10,

what need to be make out when Nifty Future is traded with 20 to 40 points in discount now a days.. is there any thing here where we can find some apportuniity and take advantage? please give your views.

further, how this will become zero or in premium? is there actually a risk to go short as here more chances for NF to climb faster than spot?
Reason for the discount here:

http://www.traderji.com/equities/39957-nifty-daily-price-analysis-15.html#post439429
 
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