Market Operators - Do they exist ? Who actually runs the show?

Do they exist in your price/volume observation experience and do they manipulate?


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vasa1

Active Member
#61
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Same Buyers Same Sellers - cricular trading..prices are automatically rised...!!

Doesnt SEBI/NSE/Deptt of Corporate Affair know this ??
:D
Hi Nisha! I think some of the names listed are those of professional trading companies which make no secret that they do intraday trading. For example CD Integrated (Ahmedabad) which seems to trade Educomp "in bulk" each day has a website which you can look at. I got the impression that they offer "trader-terminals" and high speed for those interested. (I have nothing to do with these guys :) and this is not a rec. for them!

You could check out other very active players as well.... What they seem to like are stocks that are the flavour of the day.
 

praveen taneja

Well-Known Member
#62
Hi Nisha! I think some of the names listed are those of professional trading companies which make no secret that they do intraday trading. For example CD Integrated (Ahmedabad) which seems to trade Educomp "in bulk" each day has a website which you can look at. I got the impression that they offer "trader-terminals" and high speed for those interested. (I have nothing to do with these guys and this is not a rec. for them!

You could check out other very active players as well.... What they seem to like are stocks that are the flavour of the day.
:clapping::clapping::clap::clap:
 
#63
I had requested nse to put time of the bulk deal col. In the first place it is greed only which brings us to market.We all can be classified in one of the groups at one time or other only we may not have similar money clout.
 

vasa1

Active Member
#64
Equity market rebound: Smart money too missed bus
1 May 2009, 0540 hrs IST, Santosh Nair, ET Bureau
MUMBAI: The 40% rise in benchmark equity indices since the second week of March would have easily caused some heartburn to most retail investors, who stood by and watched stock prices soar, rather than bet their money on it. But they need not curse themselves for their reticence. If leading brokers and market observers are to be believed, even the so-called smart money foreign institutional investors, domestic fund houses and high net worth individuals have not profited to the extent that share prices would like one to believe.

The Sensex closed at 11403 on Wednesday, up 3243 points, since March 9 while the Nifty has gained 900 points during the same period.

Barring a handful of market operators, and some extremely nimble foreign funds, majority of the investors be it retail or institutional have missed the rally, says Sandeep Jain, director and head of private client group, Ambit Capital. According to Mr Jain, the upswing in stock prices for most part of March was mainly fuelled by covering of short positions in the market. That led most players to believe that the rally was unlikely to sustain.

The overwhelming consensus was that the Nifty could go as high as 3100 before elections, at best 3200, but not more. Also, having lost heavily on many occasions over the past one year, most players booked profits quickly rather than holding on to their positions, he said.

What would have made money making tougher for these investors is that a handful of stocks has driven the huge rise in Nifty. Also, the best performers have been stocks that were most concerned relating to the business environment as well as company-specific issues.

Consider this. Nearly 40% of the 900 point-rise is accounted for by five stocks Reliance Industries, ONGC, Bharti Airtel, SBI and ICICI Bank.

Top performers in terms of share price included Reliance Capital, Suzlon, Unitech, Tata Motors and Sterlite, which gained between 68% and 87%.

Even as the rally was underway, there was widespread scepticism that it would not sustain, because the trigger for the upmove was a temporary surge in liquidity and a not an improvement in fundamentals, says Kotak Securities managing director SA Narayan.

Most clients did not participate in the rally for this reason, and those who did, chose to book profits quickly. The only investors who would have really benefited would be those holding on to their long-term portfolios. Else, I dont see too many short-term players having benefited from the upswing, he added.

Some fund managers at domestic mutual funds privately admit that even local fund houses have missed the bus.

Cash levels at most fund houses have come down over the last month, but are still reasonably high, as most fund managers still prefer to sit on cash because of uncertainty over the poll results, said the chief investment officer at a mutual fund, backed by a prominent corporate house.

Mutual funds have been net buyers worth Rs 1,092 crore since March 9, but many say the purchases have not been out of genuine conviction.

We had to deploy some amount of our cash, as an unexpected positive election verdict would then have sparked off a rally and forced us to buy at still higher prices, the fund manager said.

Some brokers say a section of operators have tightened their hold on the market in the past couple of weeks, flush with the profits made in the recent rally. The sudden swings in the market midway through the session, or towards the close of the day, indicate typical operator activity, said a broker.
 
#65
Barring a handful of market operators, and some extremely nimble foreign funds, majority of the investors be it retail or institutional have missed the rally, says Sandeep Jain, director and head of private client group, Ambit Capital. According to Mr Jain, the upswing in stock prices for most part of March was mainly fuelled by covering of short positions in the market. That led most players to believe that the rally was unlikely to sustain.

The overwhelming consensus was that the Nifty could go as high as 3100 before elections, at best 3200, but not more. Also, having lost heavily on many occasions over the past one year, most players booked profits quickly rather than holding on to their positions, he said.
:D

I highly suspect this is state-of-art work Orchrasted by likes of Amarsingh, Chidambaram, PC Gupta and Corporate Tops (RIL,TATA,SEBI, NSE,Brokers)...

This is very similar state-of-art work as that was done to bring Sensex from 16000 to 21000 within no time and trapped people and left nowhere....

Since this looting is done behing the scene govt does not have much risk of loosing vote bank...so this is safe looting this way...:D

By the way how is Dr Rama Lingam Raju doing in so called 5 star jail being questioned by those who already were a hiddenly part of the scam ?? :D

Nothing happened to no-one and recently Telgi what can happen to Dr Rama Lingam Raju ??? :D
 
#69
Re: lost 6 lacs in 2 months? how to recover now

Not easy to cover losses, as a thumb rule invest 1/3 of your
money at any given time.
Take delivery rather than daily profits.
Hope for the best.
 

sudoku1

Well-Known Member
#70
Re: lost 6 lacs in 2 months? how to recover now

Not easy to cover losses, as a thumb rule invest 1/3 of your
money at any given time.
Take delivery rather than daily profits.
Hope for the best.
though not an easy task 2 cover losses....but its possible....with a think positive attitude !:)