New Intermed Uptrend!!

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saint said:
Hi Prashanth,

We are in an area of strong resistance stretching back to the year 2000........careful,my friend.We are in an area of lots of supply,meaning lots of sellers here around the 630-645 mark.Moreover,you chased this one quite a bit.

Here's what you do,raise your stop loss to 590......which is your entry price.If you get around 620-625,exit.......be happy with your gains.If this starts falling,get out by 590.Re-enter at some lower price later.......don't waste time,energy and emotion running down with it if it falls!

This market is still very iffy....stay on the sidelines for now,my friend,until we get some sort of a correction.

All the best!
Saint

ps:Yes,you could buy NSE and sell in BSE once delivery is done.
Saint,

Thanks for your response.

If I put in a Limit Sell order on this stock, what is the Limit price that I need to put in?.

It says the Stop Loss price should not be less than the Limit price. I put in 597.8 for the limit price and 590.0 for the Stop loss price.

I am new to the market and I am learning. Please bear with me.

Thanks
Prashanth
 
psrikant1978 said:
Hi Saint,

I had a question on stop loss orders?.

Here is a scenario.

1) I buy a stock for 300/- (How is the stop loss calculated?)
2) Should I put in a sell order with a stop loss on it every day so that I don't lose on that stock?.

Thanks
Prashanth
Hi Prashanth,

Jaideep has written a nice piece on Stop Losses in the Some Good Steals thread.

Originally posted by Jaideep
Plenty has been said on this topic Usha, all very wise ones at that. Try & go through the earlier posts. They will educate you no end on your exit strategy etc. Meanwhile, I'll give you something to read on the topic & put you in the know of things. After all, I'm no expert TA myself....

A Stop-loss Order is an order placed with your broker to buy or sell once the stock reaches a certain price. A stop-loss is designed to limit an investor's loss on a security position. Setting a stop-loss order for 10% below the price at which you bought the stock will limit your loss to 10%. For example, let's say you just purchased SAIL at Rs.50 per share. Right after buying the stock you enter a stop-loss order for $45. This means that if the stock falls below
Rs.45,your shares will then be sold at the prevailing market price.

Positives and Negatives

The advantage of a stop order is you don't have to monitor on a daily basis how a stock is performing. This is especially when some other commitments prevents you from monitoring your stocks for any period of time.

The disadvantage is that the stop price could be activated by a short-term fluctuation in a stock's price. The key is picking a stop-loss percentage that allows a stock to fluctuate day to day while preventing as much downside risk as possible. Setting a 5% stop loss on a stock that has a history of fluctuating 10% or more in a week is not the best strategy: you'll most likely just lose money on the brokerage you'll pay for execution of your orders.

There are no hard and fast rules for the level at which stops should be placed. This totally depends on your individual investing style: an active trader might use 5% while a long-term investor might choose 15% or more.
Another thing to keep in mind is that once your stop price is reached, your stop order becomes a market order and the price at which you sell may be much different from the stop price. This is especially true in a fast-moving market where stock prices can change rapidly.

Not Just for Preventing Losses

Stop-loss orders are traditionally thought of as a way to prevent losses, thus the name. Another use of this tool, though, is to lock in profits, in which case it is sometimes referred to as a "trailing stop". Here, the stop-loss order is set at a percentage level below not the price at which you bought it but the current market price. The price of the stop loss adjusts as the stock price fluctuates. Remember, if a stock goes up, what you have is an unrealized gain, which means you don't have the cash in hand until you sell. Using a trailing stop allows you to let profits run while at the same time guaranteeing at least some realized capital gain.

Continuing with our SAIL example from above, say you set a trailing stop order for 10% below the current price, and the stock skyrockets to Rs.80 within a month. Your trailing-stop order would then lock in at Rs.72 per share (Rs.80 - (10% x Rs.80) = Rs.72). This is the worst price you would receive, so even if the stock takes an unexpected dip, you won't be in the red.


Advantages of the Stop-Loss Order

First of all, the beauty of the stop-loss order is that it costs nothing to implement. Your regular brokerage is charged only once the stop-loss price has been reached and the stock must be sold. It's like a free insurance policy!

Secondly, but most importantly, a stop loss allows decision making to be free from any emotional influences. People tend to fall in love with stocks, believing that if they give a stock another chance, it will come around. This causes procrastination and delay, giving the stock yet another chance and then yet another. In the meantime, the losses mount....

No matter what type of investor you are, you should know why you own a stock. A value investor's criteria will be different from that of a growth investor, which will be different still from an active trader. Any one strategy may work, but only if you stick to the strategy. This also means that if you are a hardcore buy-and-hold investor, your stop-loss orders are next to useless.

The point here is to be confident in your strategy and carry through with your plan. Stop-loss orders can help you stay on track without clouding your judgment with emotion.

Finally, it's important to realize that stop-loss orders do not guarantee you'll make money in the stock market; you still have to make intelligent investment decisions. If you don't, you'll lose just as much money as you would without a stop loss, only at a much slower rate.

Conclusion

A stop-loss order is such a simple little tool, yet so many investors fail to use it. Whether to prevent excessive losses or to lock in profits, nearly all investing styles can benefit from this trade. Think of a stop loss as an insurance policy: you hope you never have to use it, but it's good to know you have the protection should you need it.

HAPPY TRADING & LOADS OF PATIENCE, you'll need all this to laugh all the way to the Bank (as Saint said). Best of Luck.
 
Hi saint,

What is your take on
Aztec Software (154.10), Karnataka Bank (116.20), Indiabulls (189.60), and Hindalco(141.25)?.

I was considering buying among these. What are your suggestions?.

How long do you think the volatality will continue in the market before the bulls are back?.

Thanks
Prashanth
 
psrikant1978 said:
Hi saint,

What is your take on
Aztec Software (154.10), Karnataka Bank (116.20), Indiabulls (189.60), and Hindalco(141.25)?.

I was considering buying among these. What are your suggestions?.

How long do you think the volatality will continue in the market before the bulls are back?.

Thanks
Prashanth
Not yet on all.........keep them on your watchlist for now.Stalk them.......let them present you with an opportunity to get in.For now,no on all........but all of them are in very nice long term uptrends......so keep a wait n watch attitude!

Saint
 

karthikmarar

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Saint

I am little confused about Karnataka Bank. I do see the head and shoulder and the volume pattern is also perfect. But the trend seems to move sideways even after the right shoulder.. Maybe I am not looking at it properly.
I am enclosing a marked up chart. If you get time please do check and clarify..

regards

karthik
 
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karthikmarar said:
Saint

I am little confused about Karnataka Bank. I do see the head and shoulder and the volume pattern is also perfect. But the trend seems to move sideways even after the right shoulder.. Maybe I am not looking at it properly.
I am enclosing a marked up chart. If you get time please do check and clarify..

regards

karthik
Hi Karthik,

Think that move on the 22nd of Sept is the breakdown move below the neckline,and this is the return move back to the neckline......I am sorry can't show it on charts.Keeps coming as upload too big.

Saint
 

AMITBE

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karthikmarar said:
Saint

I am little confused about Karnataka Bank. I do see the head and shoulder and the volume pattern is also perfect. But the trend seems to move sideways even after the right shoulder.. Maybe I am not looking at it properly.
I am enclosing a marked up chart. If you get time please do check and clarify..

regards

karthik
Hi Karthik...you are seeing the right image.
Enclosed in the big rectangle is the H&S being discussed. The close at 96.85 to the left is where the price goes up to form the left shoulder. However the low falling belowthe right shoulder closes at 111.45, and moves up again rather than breaking 96 to the down and slipping further below. So this is a failed H&S so far.
Interestingly, see the smaller rectangle enclosing possibly another smaller H&S pattern in progress, where the right shoulder is being built currently at tonight's closing of 116.35. Should this now drop to 111 and below, that would be a complete H&S.
Hey! I sure hope not...I have a call on it and position too!! :rolleyes:
 

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AMITBE

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AMITBE said:
Hi Karthik...you are seeing the right image.
Enclosed in the big rectangle is the H&S being discussed. The close at 96.85 to the left is where the price goes up to form the left shoulder. However the low falling belowthe right shoulder closes at 111.45, and moves up again rather than breaking 96 to the down and slipping further below. So this is a failed H&S so far.
Interestingly, see the smaller rectangle enclosing possibly another smaller H&S pattern in progress, where the right shoulder is being built currently at tonight's closing of 116.35. Should this now drop to 111 and below, that would be a complete H&S.
Hey! I sure hope not...I have a call on it and position too!! :rolleyes:
One more point, Karthik, is that as the price dips off the right shoulder in the big rectangle, the volume you will note remains significantly low. For a successful H&S, the volume here should be going up sharply to build momentum to the down.
 
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