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Re: Time to Stick my Neck Out ,Nifty 7300

Will it work in this volatile market, if one goes long in Nifty Future May and Short in June or vice versa and square up the position comfortabily after good gain in any contract and wait for square up in next series.
 
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Re: Time to Stick my Neck Out ,Nifty 7300

Will it work in this volativle market, if one goes long in Nifty Future May and Short in June or vice versa and square up the position comfortabily after good gain in any contract and wait for square up in next series.
HOLD ..SHLD get an better oppurtunity to EXIT
 

SGM

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Re: Time to Stick my Neck Out ,Nifty 7300

Will it work in this volativle market, if one goes long in Nifty Future May and Short in June or vice versa and square up the position comfortabily after good gain in any contract and wait for square up in next series.
Hello Ranj

If you want to do this, just try this ...

Write down both the trades in your Account Book without actually executing it in market, lets say trade 1 and trade 2.

When you want to square off one of the trades with profit, again write down the transction in the book without executing it, but now also open/execute the other trade in the market (you will agree that meanwhile this other trade has collected equal loss) so this way you will save on brokerage / margin etc, but no actual diff in profit/loss.

Hopefully by now you have understood that executing both long and short trades in the market is equal to sitting outside waiting for the market to go one side so that you can take a trade at a later time.

Regards
Sanjay
 
Re: Time to Stick my Neck Out ,Nifty 7300

Will it work in this volatile market, if one goes long in Nifty Future May and Short in June or vice versa and square up the position comfortabily after good gain in any contract and wait for square up in next series.
There is a way out to exploit the difference between the values of two contracts. It's called spread trading and it works like this:-

Suppose NIFTY May is trading @ 5010 and NIFTY June is trading @ 5030. Hence, one can go long May contract and Short June Contract and thus gaining 20 points. Here we bet that the spread will eventually come down and thus we will gain from the trade. If Spread widens, we start loosing out on the trade. Now if May contract goes to 5050 and June is trading at that time at 5055, the spread has reduced to Rs. 5. We will earn Rs. 40 on may contract and Loose Rs. 25 on June contract, thus netting the difference in spread. However, If JUne contract is trading at 5080 when May contract is trading at 5050, we loose Rs. 10 as the spread has increased to Rs. 30.

Similar bets on increase in spread can also be made.

However, what you are proposing is that we Go long in May contract, ride the up trend and carry the short june position with us and when the downtrend start, we square off our May contract and later on Square off the june contract in profit also. Hence, initially except to the loss arising from spread differential, the position is risk free and later on it becomes a directional bet. Now, I fail to understand why one would like to do that? If a directional bet is to be made on a later date, why to pay brokerage and also carry the spread risk?
 

milkyblack

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Re: Time to Stick my Neck Out ,Nifty 7300

Gone long Nifty Future June at 5135 on 21/05/08. should I wait for uptrend or square off the position.
Well,

Do not take what I say as an advice... I am too naive to advice you... Take it as my piece of thought! Take decision at your comfort level and not on my so called thought!

As you are holding from 5135... now its almost 200 pts down...so no point selling now as we are just near THE support, if possible to take more 20 points loss(i.e Rs1000/- per contract) then hold with SL of 4920... Do not hold after 4920 is broken... with any kind of expectation tht the price to bounce back... it is quite possible tht break of 4920 turns out to be a false brkout... tht will be considered then.... not now...

There are many traders waiting for this level...

If this level is broken you know wht to do... Do not post here and look wht others are doing... 1st square off and then come back here and we will have a nice conversation....

In between if I change my thoughts of squarring off my longs I would definately post here.... i.e. if I find some other SL/ or some other reason... But tht would be my move... and will just post here...

Why post here? As I gave you my peice of thought of the SL... So it would be just an update of my thought... I again emphasize on the word "MY THOUGHT AND MY MOVE"... Not the markets Move... Tht market will tell.....

Do not Panic.... atleast now...

Regards
 

rkkarnani

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Re: Time to Stick my Neck Out ,Nifty 7300

holding on to the trade...SL of 4920 ...
Hello, gkpc had sent me a mail abt ur trade. He is new and thinks why shud a person hold on to a loosing position so long..... He is not at all comfortable with positional trades hence was surpised.
But i am curious too, just too know what was your SL when you entered the trade!!! Was it originally 4920 or was changed to 4920 when the trade did not go in your direction!!?
Thanks.
R K Karnani
 
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