NIFTY Options Trading by RAJ

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    Votes: 58 37.7%
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healthraj

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Those who want to try a more aggressive Strategy can
Buy 1 lot 5600CE @ 95
Buy 1 Lot 5400Pe @ 110

If the Market moves 200 points UP or DOWN you will make around 5000 on either side.
But if the VOLT Drops or if the market goes sideways then this strategy will make loss.
Booked 50% with 24 points.

Book another 25% now at 45 points profit.

Will close the Rest 25% tomorrow, when the market is around 5280-5300
 
OT,

Can you please be specific on whether to Buy or Sell and Which strikes to Buy / Sell ?

What is the Risk Reward ? You can use the Trade Analyser in the OAT tool ?
Buy options, the assumption is that Nifty will break out of 5300-5500 range.
1st leg I took 5300 pe @75
2nd leg I took 5500ce @ 90 today
I got lucky that my put positions already reached my first exit and now I'm carrying free put options to Sept 18 event. But I guess it's a high risk trade for others to initiate now. Any thoughts to still make this workable for others?honestly I didn't expect put to double in a day, some luck
 

stock72

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boss ... what event ? .....

Buy options, the assumption is that Nifty will break out of 5300-5500 range.
1st leg I took 5300 pe @75
2nd leg I took 5500ce @ 90 today
I got lucky that my put positions already reached my first exit and now I'm carrying free put options to Sept 18 event. But I guess it's a high risk trade for others to initiate now. Any thoughts to still make this workable for others?honestly I didn't expect put to double in a day, some luck
 

anup0212

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The question was, Has anybody seen this behavior of around same OI in all the Top 3 strike ie around 38L in 5500CE, 5600CE and 5700CE. I think it is to make people think that 5700 could also be the Top. So has anybody experienced this before?
Hi Raj, you were right like top was not decided and today's fall was not expected a badnews of syria..made it all worst...those type of behavior means we had more upside and i am sure we will see 5800 sure some time in this series.. And your 5300 catch was very good...u r expert...
 

healthraj

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Today the Market erased all the gains made in this series.

The INDIAVIX jumped 20% today.

What next ?

NIFTY moved 220 points from 5560 on a Single day. There was no time for people to think. So playing the 250 points positional trade in the Range of 5525-5560 has helped.
There is still no sign of any UPside Pullback. So some more downside is left. I will surely look for 5300 and 5250. From 5250, it makes a good Trade plan to goto 5750. So we have to play 250 points at a time. As long as the VOLT is high it would be high all our targets would be met.

INDIAVIX previous high was 36. Today it closed at 32.5 from Yesterday's close of 28.5 (a jump of around 20%, which has definitely helped the Options Traders). Until the INDIAVIX comes down, going Long will be tricky because it would not help the Long positions. So the first sign of LONG, should come from INDIAVIX. I think it would surely touch 36 once again, meaning some more downside is left in this market as above, may be 5250 or even less. so when we execute the Startegy at 5300, we have to be careful in choosing strikes where the IV is not very high.
 
Today the Market erased all the gains made in this series.

The INDIAVIX jumped 20% today.

What next ?

NIFTY moved 220 points from 5560 on a Single day. There was no time for people to think. So playing the 250 points positional trade in the Range of 5525-5560 has helped.
There is still no sign of any UPside Pullback. So some more downside is left. I will surely look for 5300 and 5250. From 5250, it makes a good Trade plan to goto 5750. So we have to play 250 points at a time. As long as the VOLT is high it would be high all our targets would be met.

INDIAVIX previous high was 36. Today it closed at 32.5 from Yesterday's close of 28.5 (a jump of around 20%, which has definitely helped the Options Traders). Until the INDIAVIX comes down, going Long will be tricky because it would not help the Long positions. So the first sign of LONG, should come from INDIAVIX. I think it would surely touch 36 once again, meaning some more downside is left in this market as above, may be 5250 or even less. so when we execute the Startegy at 5300, we have to be careful in choosing strikes where the IV is not very high.
Sir I bought a call today morning coz sign was green thought market goes upside.. I bought call 5600 at 110 without stoploss so then my call gone for even worse... Then I made averaging to 80 now... I wanna ask how long should I wait to come 5600 call above 80? Can u help me out?
 

healthraj

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Sir I bought a call today morning coz sign was green thought market goes upside.. I bought call 5600 at 110 without stoploss so then my call gone for even worse... Then I made averaging to 80 now... I wanna ask how long should I wait to come 5600 call above 80? Can u help me out?
With the Increase in VOLT, the Price is now at 54, So you are lucky. If the VOLT continues to be High and if the market goes up, you will break even at 5475 .

But let us say the VOLT Drops to 20%, then you will breakeven above 5525.

So all now depends on the Implied Volatility. The worst thing is yet to come.

I would suggest that when the market is around 5250-5300, you convert the positions into a Strategy because there is no sign of any pull back. So hedge your long positions with some equal number of Puts (Say 5000 PE).

When the market has moved nearly 450 points from 5110, you should expect to correct at least 120 points :)

This market could go Down even further because the OI in 5000 and 5200 are more than the MAX OI in CE.

OI at 5000 PE 42L
OI at 5200 PE 45L

The MAX OI at CE is at 5500, which is 38L.

Note : Just call me Raj
 
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toocool

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Maybe I am wrong but I think it makes sense, what I am about to tell here is a flaw in max pain theory


Most option writers have deep pockets, they are fii and other big entities right? Now if they wrote options it means that they are not expecting a particular level to be broken up or down side right? Now there is no way that even fii will be right on the market all the time , it cannot be, and also it has been seen that in case the markets moves beyond the highest oi boundaries the writers almost immediately changes their stance and write new level put and calls, so each and everything can happen in between start of a series and until it ends, however there is a little chance that all messy things happen in last expiry week and that's is the time when max pain theory truly works mostly. Because I believe that deep pockets guys when write option, they try to write it once and for all, they want it to let expire only and worthless for buyers , it's the markets that forces them to change their position to new levels, or they will suffer losses.

Just my point of view, please take it as informative post and not a criticism post, it will either help you guys or me to understand markets better :thumbup:
 

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