NIFTY Options Trading by RAJ

How do you use OAT tool?

  • For Intraday Naked Options trading

    Votes: 58 37.7%
  • For Intraday Pair trading of Options

    Votes: 27 17.5%
  • For Intraday Futures trading

    Votes: 18 11.7%
  • For Positional Naked Options trading

    Votes: 35 22.7%
  • For Positional Pair trading of options

    Votes: 29 18.8%
  • For Positional Futures trading

    Votes: 11 7.1%
  • To trade in Cash market

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Overall trading has improved with OAT

    Votes: 27 17.5%
  • Understanding of Options has improved with OAT

    Votes: 57 37.0%

  • Total voters
    154
  • Poll closed .

toughard

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What kind of strategies do you trade and are they all the time successful?

Take care dear friend :)

oh oh oh you got it in different sense...

no no i am NOT asking you in a argument voice

just want to know what you meant by fail

Fail to give profits????

or

Fail in terms of structuring it self?????
 

toughard

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What kind of strategies do you trade and are they all the time successful?

Take care dear friend :)

YES !!! ALL MY STATIC STRATEGIES ARE 100% SUCCESSFUL SINCE LAST 2 YEARS!!!

BECAUSE AT THE END OF IT, IT DELIVERED WHAT IT SAID AT THE SAID LEVELS IRRESPECTIVE OF PROFIT OR LOSS.... IT WORKED !!!:clap::clap:

SO GOT CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR WORD '' FAIL " :confused:

NO FIGHT BABA :thumb::thumb:
 
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gmt900

Well-Known Member
@Healthraj

The strategy has its good and its bad sides. Never mind about this. As you tell by your self: If it is understood how to manage each leg according to market moves and IMV on the options we use, no problem by what is done.

As you help others in a very good way, lets expand your post with the following: You even can play with the MM and change the amount of legs on either side to ad risk or take out risk according to market moves and IMV. An other trick to reduce your risk on the side you are absolute open (In case you do not know this): Just buy wings otm on those side and your risk is limited. I hope you have some kind of option strategy analyzing software, so you will see what I mean when you start to play around with those idea.

Take care and see you around :)
If one is absolute open on one side for far month option, say June and wants to limit risk by buying otm wing , should one go for near month otm ( say May) or far month otm ?

I guess, right answer would be go for near month initially since the premium would be low and if need be roll over to next month's otm option.

Thanks and regards.
 

toughard

Well-Known Member
If one is absolute open on one side for far month option, say June and wants to limit risk by buying otm wing , should one go for near month otm ( say May) or far month otm
I guess, right answer would be go for near month initially since the premium would be low and if need be roll over to next month
yes I guess ... if it was writing then may be think of far month...


one more fact is that more the legs you are opening for buy.... the profitability of that structures goes down
as risk is inverse to riward
 
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toughard

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RAJ coming back to your trades...

you have short strangle of 6000 PE & 7000 CE with a credit of Rs.280 (can you give the price that you written these)

you made a profit of 25+100 through directional based trading
lets also track short straddle price after your inputs of writing price

now hold 6900 PE @ 255 right?


please keep posting the updates raj as it will be helpful for all of us...
 

healthraj

Well-Known Member
RAJ coming back to your trades...

you have short strangle of 6000 PE & 7000 CE with a credit of Rs.280 (can you give the price that you written these)

you made a profit of 25+100 through directional based trading
lets also track short straddle price after your inputs of writing price

now hold 6900 PE @ 255 right?


please keep posting the updates raj as it will be helpful for all of us...
Hi,

I have given those NIFTY trades just to explain my strategy. I have no idea of posting my LIVE trades here because I strongly believe that posting trades does not help me or anybody for that matter.
 

toughard

Well-Known Member
Hi,

I have given those NIFTY trades just to explain my strategy. I have no idea of posting my LIVE trades here because I strongly believe that posting trades does not help me or anybody for that matter.
agreed raj.... but keep posting
as i am thinking of just covered calls or covered puts when we are good at direction and ok with legging....

like now your view is down what can be done is short the NF and sell the ATM PUT...
if market went against, you have fair chance to exit
if it went down then leg out of option written:thumb:

by default it have very high potential for profits and can be played well during HIGH IVs

what s your take?
 
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If one is absolute open on one side for far month option, say June and wants to limit risk by buying otm wing , should one go for near month otm ( say May) or far month otm ?

I guess, right answer would be go for near month initially since the premium would be low and if need be roll over to next month's otm option.

Thanks and regards.
@Gmt

If you have the strategy implemented with June options, then you can risk your limit with otm option from June series. In this case the profit loss from the trade is absolute clear defined.

If you go for a current (May) otm option leg, you have a credit spread on the closed side and you have a calendar spread on the side you want to minimize the risk.

Now should we buy an option leg from this month only because of the cheaper premium? Let's assume today you want to protect your JUN trade with a leg from the 6000 strike level. You want to roll this MAY leg into the JUN leg at end of the month May. Kindly compare the prices now from the May 6000 Nifty strike level and the one from the JUN 6000 Nifty strike level. What do you see today when you compare the prices of those two options? Wouldn't it be cheaper in this specific case today to buy now directly the JUN options instead to roll the MAY option leg?

May 2014 series: http://i58.tinypic.com/168h2yd.png
Jun 2014 series: http://i62.tinypic.com/29fbkp1.png

As every thing in option trading: It depends on the reason how and why you want to use this option leg. Is it only for part time protection, you may go for the May option leg to safe some money. If you always want to be protected you can go directly for the Jun option leg. Each personals choice. As Toughard correctly mentioned: Each added insurance leg (long leg) will have an impact of the current profit we could make with this strategy at the moment. On the other hand: We can combine our insurance legs in a way that we are suddenly in a position in which the before unlimited loss side is an unlimited profit side. But that is an other story. :)

Take care :)
 
sir

last few months i observe in nifty options total contracts traded 1 , turnover in lacs showing in 3.9 how it possible tell me sir

if you want clarity see may 2014 nifty 7750 call option his one month data you see the my question how it possible tell me sir

one contract is traded mean one buy and one cell that mean 5200/- rupees is the turnover but how 3.9 lacs in turnover
 

gmt900

Well-Known Member
@Gmt

If you have the strategy implemented with June options, then you can risk your limit with otm option from June series. In this case the profit loss from the trade is absolute clear defined.

If you go for a current (May) otm option leg, you have a credit spread on the closed side and you have a calendar spread on the side you want to minimize the risk.

Now should we buy an option leg from this month only because of the cheaper premium? Let's assume today you want to protect your JUN trade with a leg from the 6000 strike level. You want to roll this MAY leg into the JUN leg at end of the month May. Kindly compare the prices now from the May 6000 Nifty strike level and the one from the JUN 6000 Nifty strike level. What do you see today when you compare the prices of those two options? Wouldn't it be cheaper in this specific case today to buy now directly the JUN options instead to roll the MAY option leg?

May 2014 series: http://i58.tinypic.com/168h2yd.png
Jun 2014 series: http://i62.tinypic.com/29fbkp1.png

As every thing in option trading: It depends on the reason how and why you want to use this option leg. Is it only for part time protection, you may go for the May option leg to safe some money. If you always want to be protected you can go directly for the Jun option leg. Each personals choice. As Toughard correctly mentioned: Each added insurance leg (long leg) will have an impact of the current profit we could make with this strategy at the moment. On the other hand: We can combine our insurance legs in a way that we are suddenly in a position in which the before unlimited loss side is an unlimited profit side. But that is an other story. :)

Take care :)
Thanks Dan. That makes it clear.

You do remember my post in ankur's thread.

I sold one lot June 6000C/6000P in Jan when vola was low.

I bought back 6000P leg with 200 points profit but left 6000C open.

6000C sold in Jan for 532 is at 948.95, loss of 416.95 points, net loss of 216.95 points.

In this case, it may be prudent to book loss rather than taking insurance by buying otm call option.

I know I handled this trade badly, but have learnt a good lesson.
 

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