NIFTY Options Trading by RAJ

How do you use OAT tool?

  • For Intraday Naked Options trading

    Votes: 58 37.7%
  • For Intraday Pair trading of Options

    Votes: 27 17.5%
  • For Intraday Futures trading

    Votes: 18 11.7%
  • For Positional Naked Options trading

    Votes: 35 22.7%
  • For Positional Pair trading of options

    Votes: 29 18.8%
  • For Positional Futures trading

    Votes: 11 7.1%
  • To trade in Cash market

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Overall trading has improved with OAT

    Votes: 27 17.5%
  • Understanding of Options has improved with OAT

    Votes: 57 37.0%

  • Total voters
    154
  • Poll closed .
Yes it is 5 years of perseverance and the urge to make it happen. I cannot fail. Even I fail at some point it has to work. May it is a matter of time. For some it works in one year. For some like me it takes 5 years. For others it might take more than 5 years.

My simple ten rules that I follow now...

1.My first rule is to Keep the system Simple and Sweet. I do not keep changing my system and / Or Rules - In the last 5 years I was keep on improving my system and did not spend enough time on the trading.
2.I have fixed my Trading quantities constant for the last 3 months. That way my Risk and Money management is simple and so that I can always recover my Losses. Since I mostly trade with Selling Options, I am kind of forced not to take too many positions. Before I used to multiply and invest also the profit.
3.I have fixed a Timeframe for charts and do not keep changing the timeframe. I use hourly charts to Take Major entry and exit. I also use the Lower timeframe rarely when I am taking Naked options. I also should not lose the BIG Picture and so I also see the Daily, Weekly and Monthly Charts to build perceptions.
4.I do not use fancy indicators and Tools. I just use my Excel based tool which gets data from Google, NSEIndia and my OAT tool for the Options Chain. I just use the Trend line and calculate the Resistance line and Support line. I also have a Major Trend Line and Minor Trend line. Major Trend line is for the overall support and Resistance. Minor Trend is to identify any Breakout or Breakdown.
5.I mostly trade with one or two instruments. I mostly trade with NIFTY.
6.I also use Options Chain data to get a view on the market direction before making an Entry. For Trading with Options, Options Chain is an important data.
7.I set a simple Goal per month as max 20% of the capital. So my daily target becomes 1% and my weekly target becomes 5%.
8.I fix my stoploss before i enter the trade and get out when I am not sure about the direction or when my stoploss is hit. For Options I normally have 20 points as the stoploss
9.I should also have a BIAS in my trade. I cannot make money with a Neutral bias. But I do not follow others like TV Pandits or a Stock Guru and decide my direction. I make my own decision using the system I have.
10.Finally No system can work 100%. So when my system does not work, I do not try to find fault with my system. I also don't try develop/ tune my system to make it work 100%. There is no such system which works 100%.

I always wanted to keep the trading simple. Hope I can make it simpler.
Super.
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
My simple ten rules that I follow now...
10. Finally No system can work 100%. So when my system does not work, I do not try to find fault with my system. I also don't try develop/ tune my system to make it work 100%. There is no such system which works 100%.
 
Dear Raj,

Hats off to u..
Your hardwork and experience is working for u.
i m new to trading..but i m only interested in Nifty Options...i have just
learned ur rule 1 to 5..(max change in OI).on that basis i have atleast found that the market will be bullish or bearish.
one thing i m doing is that i m just taking target of 5 points at a time and selling it...i m doing intraday.
ex: today i took NIFTY CE 7650 200 lots at 70 and selled it at 76.such way i do three to four trades. strictly i get out in 5 ponits each trade.that way have earned average 60 points daily this week.Getting out in 5 points is like playing very safe.but i m doing three to four trades daily.
I m not techically good into this uptil now.but i m trying to get into it.
Hope u comment and suggest on this.

Thanks!!!!:lol:
 

anilnegi

Well-Known Member
Dear Raj,

Hats off to u..
Your hardwork and experience is working for u.
i m new to trading..but i m only interested in Nifty Options...i have just
learned ur rule 1 to 5..(max change in OI).on that basis i have atleast found that the market will be bullish or bearish.
one thing i m doing is that i m just taking target of 5 points at a time and selling it...i m doing intraday.
ex: today i took NIFTY CE 7650 200 lots at 70 and selled it at 76.such way i do three to four trades. strictly i get out in 5 ponits each trade.that way have earned average 60 points daily this week.Getting out in 5 points is like playing very safe.but i m doing three to four trades daily.
I m not techically good into this uptil now.but i m trying to get into it.
Hope u comment and suggest on this.

Thanks!!!!:lol:

Shri g

You said you were new to trading still doing intraday on options, pls mind option is like a slow poison and can be dealt only by experts like raj, dont mind my word, however, there is one more saying fortune favours the brave

anil
 
Yes it is 5 years of perseverance and the urge to make it happen. I cannot fail. Even I fail at some point it has to work. May it is a matter of time. For some it works in one year. For some like me it takes 5 years. For others it might take more than 5 years.

My simple ten rules that I follow now...

1. My first rule is to Keep the system Simple and Sweet. I do not keep changing my system and / Or Rules - In the last 5 years I was keep on improving my system and did not spend enough time on the trading.
2. I have fixed my Trading quantities constant for the last 3 months. That way my Risk and Money management is simple and so that I can always recover my Losses. Since I mostly trade with Selling Options, I am kind of forced not to take too many positions. Before I used to multiply and invest also the profit.
3. I have fixed a Timeframe for charts and do not keep changing the timeframe. I use hourly charts to Take Major entry and exit. I also use the Lower timeframe rarely when I am taking Naked options. I also should not lose the BIG Picture and so I also see the Daily, Weekly and Monthly Charts to build perceptions.
4. I do not use fancy indicators and Tools. I just use my Excel based tool which gets data from Google, NSEIndia and my OAT tool for the Options Chain. I just use the Trend line and calculate the Resistance line and Support line. I also have a Major Trend Line and Minor Trend line. Major Trend line is for the overall support and Resistance. Minor Trend is to identify any Breakout or Breakdown.
5. I mostly trade with one or two instruments. I mostly trade with NIFTY.
6. I also use Options Chain data to get a view on the market direction before making an Entry. For Trading with Options, Options Chain is an important data.
7. I set a simple Goal per month as max 20% of the capital. So my daily target becomes 1% and my weekly target becomes 5%.
8. I fix my stoploss before i enter the trade and get out when I am not sure about the direction or when my stoploss is hit. For Options I normally have 20 points as the stoploss
9. I should also have a BIAS in my trade. I cannot make money with a Neutral bias. But I do not follow others like TV Pandits or a Stock Guru and decide my direction. I make my own decision using the system I have.
10. Finally No system can work 100%. So when my system does not work, I do not try to find fault with my system. I also don't try develop/ tune my system to make it work 100%. There is no such system which works 100%.

I always wanted to keep the trading simple. Hope I can make it simpler.


Hi Raj,

Nice to see you back on TJ. I am super fan of your all three tools and using them in daily trade, however I have a query about OAT about updating pivots and charts and second part of first page of tool, when I press update pivot or refresh button there the values for pivot, R/S are not updating from what you have provided initially with default values while both LT and HT charts are scrambling with unreadable format.

Could you please help me on this ? Not sure if this is right thread to ask you this however not able to find details on this in other your threads so asking here.
Sorry to trouble you on this.

Thanks
 
You said you were new to trading still doing intraday on options, pls mind option is like a slow poison and can be dealt only by experts like raj, dont mind my word, however, there is one more saying fortune favours the brave

anil
_______



Hi Anil...i respect your words....
i m not here just to earn money..mainly gaining knowledge.money will come and go.there is no shortcut here.experience and knowledge is the only shortcut.
Anil and Raj can u plz suggest on my strategy to deal only in 5 points per trade.u can read my previous post.

-Shri
 
Very good initiative,raj....good keep it up.......:thumb::clapping:
Yes it is 5 years of perseverance and the urge to make it happen. I cannot fail. Even I fail at some point it has to work. May it is a matter of time. For some it works in one year. For some like me it takes 5 years. For others it might take more than 5 years.

My simple ten rules that I follow now...

1. My first rule is to Keep the system Simple and Sweet. I do not keep changing my system and / Or Rules - In the last 5 years I was keep on improving my system and did not spend enough time on the trading.
2. I have fixed my Trading quantities constant for the last 3 months. That way my Risk and Money management is simple and so that I can always recover my Losses. Since I mostly trade with Selling Options, I am kind of forced not to take too many positions. Before I used to multiply and invest also the profit.
3. I have fixed a Timeframe for charts and do not keep changing the timeframe. I use hourly charts to Take Major entry and exit. I also use the Lower timeframe rarely when I am taking Naked options. I also should not lose the BIG Picture and so I also see the Daily, Weekly and Monthly Charts to build perceptions.
4. I do not use fancy indicators and Tools. I just use my Excel based tool which gets data from Google, NSEIndia and my OAT tool for the Options Chain. I just use the Trend line and calculate the Resistance line and Support line. I also have a Major Trend Line and Minor Trend line. Major Trend line is for the overall support and Resistance. Minor Trend is to identify any Breakout or Breakdown.
5. I mostly trade with one or two instruments. I mostly trade with NIFTY.
6. I also use Options Chain data to get a view on the market direction before making an Entry. For Trading with Options, Options Chain is an important data.
7. I set a simple Goal per month as max 20% of the capital. So my daily target becomes 1% and my weekly target becomes 5%.
8. I fix my stoploss before i enter the trade and get out when I am not sure about the direction or when my stoploss is hit. For Options I normally have 20 points as the stoploss
9. I should also have a BIAS in my trade. I cannot make money with a Neutral bias. But I do not follow others like TV Pandits or a Stock Guru and decide my direction. I make my own decision using the system I have.
10. Finally No system can work 100%. So when my system does not work, I do not try to find fault with my system. I also don't try develop/ tune my system to make it work 100%. There is no such system which works 100%.

I always wanted to keep the trading simple. Hope I can make it simpler.
 
Absolutely true......thats why he is on sellers side......gambler loses to house..... gambler have few probability to succeed contrary to the house..


You said you were new to trading still doing intraday on options, pls mind option is like a slow poison and can be dealt only by experts like raj, dont mind my word, however, there is one more saying fortune favours the brave

anil
_______



Hi Anil...i respect your words....
i m not here just to earn money..mainly gaining knowledge.money will come and go.there is no shortcut here.experience and knowledge is the only shortcut.
Anil and Raj can u plz suggest on my strategy to deal only in 5 points per trade.u can read my previous post.

-Shri
 

healthraj

Well-Known Member
Dear Raj,

Hats off to u..
Your hardwork and experience is working for u.
i m new to trading..but i m only interested in Nifty Options...i have just
learned ur rule 1 to 5..(max change in OI).on that basis i have atleast found that the market will be bullish or bearish.
one thing i m doing is that i m just taking target of 5 points at a time and selling it...i m doing intraday.
ex: today i took NIFTY CE 7650 200 lots at 70 and selled it at 76.such way i do three to four trades. strictly i get out in 5 ponits each trade.that way have earned average 60 points daily this week.Getting out in 5 points is like playing very safe.but i m doing three to four trades daily.
I m not techically good into this uptil now.but i m trying to get into it.
Hope u comment and suggest on this.

Thanks!!!!:lol:
Trading for 5 points is too risky. When you have a bad trade it will be very difficult to recover your losses.

Instead of reducing your profit and taking 200 quantities, you can reduce the quantity and go for 50 quantities with 20 points. Trading is about mastering both Greed and Fear. It is pure mathematics.

When you play with 5 points, with 4 trades you make 20 points. But with one bad trade with a loss of 20 points, your five winning trades are lost.

So in options and Futures never play with 5 points.
You will not learn. Finally trading is about a positive aggression.

In other words if you are sure that you will never loose more than 5 points then going for 5 points is fine
 

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