yeah ST, I am following thomas de mark systems...became interested after read that old thread of leo and ur comments in it....read 2 books of thomas .new science& day trading options and then demark indicators by jason pearl....following td seq and combo in NF, BNF and DOW......although am daytrader but what harm in knowing a system in detail....one more thing is as this system do not give buy - sell signal by arrows not many interested in doing hardwork of matching all the conditions...