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[umeshmandal]

NF long > 5287.00

 

[linkon7]

Sir, the implaid volatilty is raise so the price of option is high. Also sir the market has already down by near to 2% and this also has happen wehn we the market is near the low side of the range in before many days. The range we trade before has bteween 5355 - 5600. So sir there is chance that the market not go down even below today (it alrady down near to 2%) so the market remain here only or go up little only to 5300 - 5320 leval.

So then if the market go up little bit or keep here only then the implaid volatity can has to go down so I thinking my sell CE 5200 and sell PE 5300 price can go down and I has take profit before close time today.

So sir, becasue the implaid volatity is raise as per the option oracal software. I take my before tell positon.

Thank you.

Linkon,

VIX is at >23 now... so selling options is not a bad idea if one knows how to manage risk and have arms and ammo for damage control...

A raise in volatality doesnt mean we short options... we want VIX to peak and then fall... that's when we go short on options...!

VIX is rising because there is uncertainty in the market direction. Let the dust settle... then think of risk management. If stops get taken in few seconds in either direction... it just means stay out...! Not a time to be brave as charts are not telling us anything.

Bulls are in pain because of huge m2m losses. Bears are in pain because profit on the table is vanishing rapidly...! Who blinks first... no one knows...!

As a small fly on the elephants back... we prefer to stay out when elephant is on a rampage....!

 

[umeshmandal]

SL fot NF long 5274

 

[ranger123]

I sell PE 5300 (4 Lots) for Rs. 111.75 at 11:05 time

Now I has a pari of sell 4 lots CE 5200 = Rs. 121.40 and sell 4 lots of PE 5300 = Rs. 111.75 So the pair sell prise is Rs. 233.15

I has putting stoploss of the pair at Rs. 244

Thank you

Hello all,

Because the nifty index has go up above 5300 leval fast my pair price is

CE 5200 = 146.75 and PE 5300 = 77.6 total pair price is Rs. 224.35


My sell price of 4 lots of CE 5200 and PE 5300 = Rs. 233.15

So my postion in profit of Rs. 8.8 Rupes.

I plan to add CE 5300 (sell 4 lot) in some time....

Thank you.

 

[ranger123]

Hello all,

Because the nifty index has go up above 5300 leval fast my pair price is

CE 5200 = 146.75 and PE 5300 = 77.6 total pair price is Rs. 224.35


My sell price of 4 lots of CE 5200 and PE 5300 = Rs. 233.15

So my postion in profit of Rs. 8.8 Rupes.

I plan to add CE 5300 (sell 4 lot) in some time....

Thank you.

I add sell 4 Lots of CE 5300 for Rs. 79.45 at 11:25 time....I will put pair order of sell 4 Lot of PE 5300 in some times.

Thank you.

 

[PGDIMES]

One thing Linkon... they keep 100% of margin reqd. for overnight positions... In my opinion, not much difference of OI will be there in their trading account as far as EOD is concerned... and the increase in vola will surely increase the SPAN amt. as well...

40% of FDI comes from Mauritius route. That's a large chunk of market participants.

If govt does ungli to a group that control 35% of all derivative segment... and brokers are scared that one segment of their customers aaj churi torega... then forget span margin...! it'll be like tsunami...!

Ab kaun mai ka lal wants to be saheed Bhagat singh...! saab apna apna positions square off karenge and try to wait and watch....!

My previous post was only related to Zerodha's increase in margin requirement for intraday trades...

you know about these treaties... take years to finalise... don't know why mauritus govt. will agree to the terms given by bharat govt... as this is their principal source of earning money...

IMHO, this is the last leg of the fall... like March 2009... i would rather wait and watch instead of divesting my portfolio...

 

[ranger123]

I add sell 4 Lots of CE 5300 for Rs. 79.45 at 11:25 time....I will put pair order of sell 4 Lot of PE 5300 in some times.

Thank you.

I add sell 4 lots of PE 5300 for Rs. 85.25 at 11:30

So now I has two pairs

1) Sell 4 Lots CE 5200 and sell 4 lots PE 5300 for Rs. 233.15 Stop lose = Rs. 244
2) Sell 4 lots CE 5300 and sell 4 lots PE 5300 for Rs. 164.7 stop lose = Rs. 173


Thank you

 

[ranger123]

A raise in volatality doesnt mean we short options... we want VIX to peak and then fall... that's when we go short on options...!

VIX is rising because there is uncertainty in the market direction. Let the dust settle... then think of risk management. If stops get taken in few seconds in either direction... it just means stay out...! Not a time to be brave as charts are not telling us anything.

Bulls are in pain because of huge m2m losses. Bears are in pain because profit on the table is vanishing rapidly...! Who blinks first... no one knows...!

As a small fly on the elephants back... we prefer to stay out when elephant is on a rampage....!

Sir I trading only the chart and not the news. If I or any one see the news then we will get confus and not do trading. Before I use trade by news and charts and so I get confus and than lose money. Now I only see the chart for trade and becase the implaid volatity is rise I place my sell postion in options. Sir, I has also place stop loss order acoording to my risk taking limit.

Thank you.

 

[PGDIMES]

A raise in volatality doesnt mean we short options... we want VIX to peak and then fall... that's when we go short on options...!

VIX is rising because there is uncertainty in the market direction. Let the dust settle... then think of risk management. If stops get taken in few seconds in either direction... it just means stay out...! Not a time to be brave as charts are not telling us anything.

Bulls are in pain because of huge m2m losses. Bears are in pain because profit on the table is vanishing rapidly...! Who blinks first... no one knows...!

As a small fly on the elephants back... we prefer to stay out when elephant is on a rampage....!

Linkon,

Again my TF was different from the way you analysed it... I was talking about intraday trades of Ranger... the sudden spike in vola was a good opportunity to short, IMHO... as lightening doesn't strike twice... at least not intraday...

btw, rest of your analysis is very accurate... as always... wat i hv found so far is VIX around 25 and falling is the best time to short options(positional)

 

[ranger123]

I add sell 4 lots of PE 5300 for Rs. 85.25 at 11:30

So now I has two pairs

1) Sell 4 Lots CE 5200 and sell 4 lots PE 5300 for Rs. 233.15 Stop lose = Rs. 244
2) Sell 4 lots CE 5300 and sell 4 lots PE 5300 for Rs. 164.7 stop lose = Rs. 173


Thank you

Now price is

CE 5200 = 134.95
CE 5300 = 74.80
PE 5300 = 88.50

I has two pairs

1) Sell 4 Lots CE 5200 and sell 4 lots PE 5300 for Rs. 233.15 (Now price = 223.45) Stop lose = Rs. 244
2) Sell 4 lots CE 5300 and sell 4 lots PE 5300 for Rs. 164.7 (Now price = Rs. 163.3) stop lose = Rs. 173

Thank you.