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TFL

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#61
5. 505537 Zee Entertainment Enterprises Ltd BSE

This also look well setup for a ralley...



Any guesses for comming weak for this?!

regards,
priyanvada
Above 170, 2 days back was a good R/R entry for short-term positional. After that it gone up 13%. Will be good to buy if we get at a lower level on Monday or Tuesday.

TFL.
 

priyanvada

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#62
Idea: :!-

In our model of stock market, we should be having a space for learned traders like us! ... Our species doesn't make decisions on its own, but the chart almost force us to take decisions ...

This way theory is dominating in major of learned one's like us. Any well taught trader takes charts in his hand and understands the chart the way he is taught to understand it and take very much the same decisions that any other well taught trader would take :). Since it is a money business it is serious business. And hence there are many well taught traders as compared to untaught once. Thus theory forces all well taught traders to make decisions in a polarised/one directional way. Thus theory itself defines the direction of any /every stock and not the traders. Thus in inturn theory proves herself in the market, since majority of serious the decisions are made according to guidlines of the theory with a REAL fear of losing money!!!

So in conclusion until the theory will dominate our smart but timid brains, market will not be a chaos,... It will be a well defined and consistant one!!!...since it is the theory who will be driving the market not us ;), It will be candlesticks,RSI and MACD who are actually in control of market through our well taught brains ... and we will be in deception that we are the BOSS of the market!!!


regards
priyanvada
 
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TFL

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#63
RNRL: -

One of very close to heart for me, since it was major contributor for my Rs.6000/- loss in last three weeks :)

This is looks warmed up to fly but I am little confused since RSI is more towards east and not north and MACD has not yet crossed EXP line ,,,



Let us see what happens ...

regards,
priyanvada

PS: - I am no way expert ... So I request experts to what to sense from this...I am just trying to predict who will rock next week and see if I am correct ...:thumb:
Will be nice if it comes above 84 level.
 

priyanvada

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#64
No Rain today ... So tonight is boring night of the monsoon ...
Anyway good night if anyone is still awake!

regards,
priyanvada
 

priyanvada

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#65
Good Evening to everyone (I hope there be someone to read this!),

3-4 years ago, i accidently had met a foreigner L. Morgeston a very old man from US ... He was stock grandmaster I can say ... he had amassed @ $25,000,000/- in stock market! ... I had not much interest in stock market then but he was very ambitious about me :) ...he was so impressed by me, I don't know why? ... He always tried to teach me something whenever he had an opportunity ... He wanted me to trade with his money in american stock market, loss was his responsibilty and profit would be shared half-half :) ... I had warned he might lose all ...but he was SURE ... I never thought i would enter in stock in my whole life ... And strangely I am IN today and sadly he has left me forewhere ...
... So today I would like to put down a few points he told whenever he had a chance to teach me something ...Following are the reminiscent lessons pointwise...You can take it as suggestions of a life time REAL successful trader+investor ... Use them if you agree with them ...else just forget it...

1. Bite less Chew more and Eat until you are satisfied!: - This is little personal My eating habits were/are just like a monster!!...He always told me, priyu bite less, chew more and eat as much as you want ...

2. 6 Months of survival capacity
:- He had a view about how much one should invest in stocks ... He told me," Priyu, I have kept aside an amount which will make me easily survive without any work for six months!, Rest amount is for stocks"...

3. No need to know each n everything @ Stock, Charts tell me everything :- He was probably a Technical trader he would show me candle stick charts on his computer and many times used to show something in the bottom ...some line crossing some line and in the chart too some strange line moving woth stock price ... I listened just for the sake of listening ... He told he don't know much about newly formed companies but still he can assess them from charts ....

4. Selling out 100% in one shot : - He had a strategy that whenever he wanted to sell some stocks , he used to sell all of them in one shot!!!

5. You must learn to be in the moment : - The ultimate secret of success in stock or life he used tell above sentence many times ... i almost got bored with that statement ... "Be in the moment" ... What was that??? ...

6. Like it or not, & although its illegal market is manipulated : - He has a strong conviction that the owners of oil well in gulf countries control the market. They hire intelligent peoples and collectively they decide what should be the direction of the stock market and when to make it rise and when to fall!!! ... For example he told they decide if this index comes to say 4235 points while rising , all of they will sell out everything heavily and would crash the market by creating fear in little fishes ...

7. Everyone intelligent is paid for what he is telling : - There was (probably is) a show on US television and a man reviews stocks and makes huge acrobats for convincing to buy a given stock to viewers ... he can do anything for that ... ring a bell or blow a horn ... and attract attention ... Mr. L. Morgeston would tell me for SURE he is paid for he is telling emotional peoples!!! ... just to lure them he is paid!! ... Many financial reporters are also heavily paid for what they report ... He was so SURE about this ... i got really scared to argue with him on this point ... So in all he said don't believe any opinion ...don't believe any report too much because everyone is paid!...believe in companies figures & charts you see daily... and use your own head

8. Use psychological effects on peoples minds : - An example for this he told that when there was an attack on world Trade Center major stock holders of the Airline Company sold all the stock they possed in a fear that this company will be sued for this attack and all bad things possible thereafter ...At that time MR. L. Morgeston said he knew it was an terrorist attack and this is not Airline companies responsibilty so they won't be sued for sure ... So when the stocks reached rock bottom he put his all money in those stocks and when the things become clear that Companies won't be sued by the government then their prices rocketed again and he made some 30% net profit in a very very short period of time!!!

9. Be totally IN when you are IN the market : - During night when US market opens and when he had bought some shares then nothing in the world was important than his PC monitor ... he never moved from there ... I thought this is too much! ... but just a week ago I got the "reason" for his behaviour ... I had taken HDFC put a stop loss ... to my pleasure price went up ... I assumed now it has got uptrend so let it rise up till then I will have my luch ... but huh!!... till I made my lunch it had fallen and hit my stoploss ... So if i had put a traling stoploss i would have earned 1-2 % profit but due to my carelessness or take it easy attitude I made a 1% loss ... It was such a lesson ... you can check back my diary here and you will know ...

10. Upside and downside principle
: - He used to say this very often ... "Priyu, Always make decisions on your own ... the more you make conciously the wiser you are ... And remember "Not making a decision about something is also making a decision!!!"...Many times you stuck up to take "a decision" about something... so use my simple principle ... See uphill side of that decision and downhill side of that decision and then compare it with uphill side of not making a decision and down hill side of not making a decision ... So which one you "preffer" ... decide on this and stick to it and take your decision conciously so that you will move forward" ... he would say " Not only in stocks but you can use this principle in all things of life" ...

So this much I remember right now ... I really miss him ...

Thanks and regards,
priyanvada

PS: - He had one day got an email from his mentor in US ... and he was in deep thought after that ... he showed that to me ... but since my english is 5th grade or less I didn't get a clue ... he said that he can understand that I don't understand ...he said this was very native language so very few in india would understand ... What I understood as that something very ill has happened to the US market that time , and when that surfaces in front of everybody then maket is going crash worst in the history ... And really it did about 9 months or a year later ...
 
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priyanvada

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#66
One more term I had learned from Mr. L. Morgeston ... Juggernauts!! ... How can I forget that!... All the giant companies stock prices of which continue to grow of sure as if they are unstoppable force in the market ... Juggernauts!

regards,
priyanvada
 

augubhai

Well-Known Member
#67
Good Evening to everyone (I hope there be someone to read this!),

3-4 years ago, i accidently had met a foreigner L. Morgeston a very old man from US ... He was stock grandmaster I can say ... he had amassed @ $25,000,000/- in stock market! ... I had not much interest in stock market then but he was very ambitious about me :) ...he was so impressed by me, I don't know why? ... He always tried to teach me something whenever he had an opportunity ... He wanted me to trade with his money in american stock market, loss was his responsibilty and profit would be shared half-half :) ... I had warned he might lose all ...but he was SURE ... I never thought i would enter in stock in my whole life ... And strangely I am IN today and sadly he has left me forewhere ...
... So today I would like to put down a few points he told whenever he had a chance to teach me something ...Following are the reminiscent lessons pointwise...You can take it as suggestions of a life time REAL successful trader+investor ... Use them if you agree with them ...else just forget it...

1. Bite less Chew more and Eat until you are satisfied!: - This is little personal My eating habits were/are just like a monster!!...He always told me, priyu bite less, chew more and eat as much as you want ...

2. 6 Months of survival capacity
:- He had a view about how much one should invest in stocks ... He told me," Priyu, I have kept aside an amount which will make me easily survive without any work for six months!, Rest amount is for stocks"...

3. No need to know each n everything @ Stock, Charts tell me everything :- He was probably a Technical trader he would show me candle stick charts on his computer and many times used to show something in the bottom ...some line crossing some line and in the chart too some strange line moving woth stock price ... I listened just for the sake of listening ... He told he don't know much about newly formed companies but still he can assess them from charts ....

4. Selling out 100% in one shot : - He had a strategy that whenever he wanted to sell some stocks , he used to sell all of them in one shot!!!

5. You must learn to be in the moment : - The ultimate secret of success in stock or life he used tell above sentence many times ... i almost got bored with that statement ... "Be in the moment" ... What was that??? ...

6. Like it or not, & although its illegal market is manipulated : - He has a strong conviction that the owners of oil well in gulf countries control the market. They hire intelligent peoples and collectively they decide what should be the direction of the stock market and when to make it rise and when to fall!!! ... For example he told they decide if this index comes to say 4235 points while rising , all of they will sell out everything heavily and would crash the market by creating fear in little fishes ...

7. Everyone intelligent is paid for what he is telling : - There was (probably is) a show on US television and a man reviews stocks and makes huge acrobats for convincing to buy a given stock to viewers ... he can do anything for that ... ring a bell or blow a horn ... and attract attention ... Mr. L. Morgeston would tell me for SURE he is paid for he is telling emotional peoples!!! ... just to lure them he is paid!! ... Many financial reporters are also heavily paid for what they report ... He was so SURE about this ... i got really scared to argue with him on this point ... So in all he said don't believe any opinion ...don't believe any report too much because everyone is paid!...believe in companies figures & charts you see daily... and use your own head

8. Use psychological effects on peoples minds : - An example for this he told that when there was an attack on world Trade Center major stock holders of the Airline Company sold all the stock they possed in a fear that this company will be sued for this attack and all bad things possible thereafter ...At that time MR. L. Morgeston said he knew it was an terrorist attack and this is not Airline companies responsibilty so they won't be sued for sure ... So when the stocks reached rock bottom he put his all money in those stocks and when the things become clear that Companies won't be sued by the government then their prices rocketed again and he made some 30% net profit in a very very short period of time!!!

9. Be totally IN when you are IN the market : - During night when US market opens and when he had bought some shares then nothing in the world was important than his PC monitor ... he never moved from there ... I thought this is too much! ... but just a week ago I got the "reason" for his behaviour ... I had taken HDFC put a stop loss ... to my pleasure price went up ... I assumed now it has got uptrend so let it rise up till then I will have my luch ... but huh!!... till I made my lunch it had fallen and hit my stoploss ... So if i had put a traling stoploss i would have earned 1-2 % profit but due to my carelessness or take it easy attitude I made a 1% loss ... It was such a lesson ... you can check back my diary here and you will know ...

10. Upside and downside principle
: - He used to say this very often ... "Priyu, Always make decisions on your own ... the more you make conciously the wiser you are ... And remember "Not making a decision about something is also making a decision!!!"...Many times you stuck up to take "a decision" about something... so use my simple principle ... See uphill side of that decision and downhill side of that decision and then compare it with uphill side of not making a decision and down hill side of not making a decision ... So which one you "preffer" ... decide on this and stick to it and take your decision conciously so that you will move forward" ... he would say " Not only in stocks but you can use this principle in all things of life" ...

So this much I remember right now ... I really miss him ...

Thanks and regards,
priyanvada

PS: - He had one day got an email from his mentor in US ... and he was in deep thought after that ... he showed that to me ... but since my english is 5th grade or less I didn't get a clue ... he said that he can understand that I don't understand ...he said this was very native language so very few in india would understand ... What I understood as that something very ill has happened to the US market that time , and when that surfaces in front of everybody then maket is going crash worst in the history ... And really it did about 9 months or a year later ...
This and some of the earlier posts show an amazing level of maturity for a newbie.... but the trading diary does not seem to reflect any of it :confused:
 

priyanvada

Well-Known Member
#68
:confused:

... Energy is too much and uncontrollable ...
... Real trading experience is very less ...
...Live resources like price chart n volumes are NOT ...... and knowledge of how to wisely use them is also very low
... trading platform is very non attractive and slow ...
... Questions are too many ...No one to talk other than to express my mind here on traderji :)
.. Focus is absolutely diversified on many many things
... whichever golden deer attracts sita's mind, she runs after it madly ...and deers are many!!! :)
... decisions making is very much on emotion and intution and tips ... hence poor decisions and poor and ridiculous diary ...

...So it is total chaos in my mind for last few weeks

... I hope to grow up soon! :)

regards,
priyanvada
 

priyanvada

Well-Known Member
#69
Augubhai..

It always feels as if I am stepping in complete darkness whenver I take entry in the market ...This is Soooo scary...If I make loss it becomes more scary next time...Only clearly visible thing for me is My Stoploss!!! :)...

... the journey has been absolutely lonely so far ... the moment my brother Vishal showed me this place I quickly Vomited the stuff inside me ... All questions,,,all that I heard ... everything!!! ... Now I feel empty ,,,and at ease!

regards,
priyanvada
 

priyanvada

Well-Known Member
#70
mmmmm......My understanding ability about anything in the world is very much compitative with a small innocent child!!! ... but my planning & execution is rediculous ... Many plans start swinging over my head every evening and morning and finally I enter without any plan!!!...
So as a solution for this my mental transformation is needed...So I am making "my rules" now a days to evolve my mind ... By habit or say by nature(!) my brain starts multitasking things ... one job I am doing and simultaneously planning of future actions is happening ...simulataneously if else loop is running ... simultaneously free questioning is taking place ... simultaneously must do list is being reminded ... and I am so much engaged in this that nothing happens with 'quality' of doer in it ... Everything goes on of just 'trash' quality ... And on every evening a someone inside takes note of all failures throughout a day and and put big ? about my "ability" ... But a scientific thinker inside always supports me from other side ... he says that ability is not there then it can be created! ... So don't worry ... Some other says when??? and the scientis has no answer ... Someone inside me suggests develop your willpower ... wake up at 4 am in the morning without any excuse and also without any alarmclock which might "force" things... but this simple action of "Willingly waking up at 4 am everyday" has become impossible for me :( ...
... So as a solution to this i am finding "reasons" for me to become millionair!! ... I am making my "own rules" now a days and remind them to my mind from time to time ... Rules like ..
1. Put your 99% attention @ job in hand and 1% just to keep a sense of the world around ...

2. Let anyone think what he wants to think @ you due to your behaviour... Don't bother about others thoughts too much...Don't give a damn about what anyo one thinks @ you...don't act to make him think @ you, the way you want! ... just be natural like on traderji forum... It is your freedom to be natural ... and travel your own path ... the peoples are just mirrors ... they will clap if they like ... they will frown if they don't like ... they will act as per their mental make up ...It is foolish to impress anyone and it is foolish to want someone think of you the YOU way want! ... So forget it ... let peoples give you names let peoples appreaciate you ... their reactions don't matter at all ... Real thing matters is what you think about your self ... What you like @ your self ... what behaviour mental or physical will please you a lot ... Think about that priyu ...

3. Plan and execute ... ohh priyu i know you never planned consciously till now ... but now you can do that ... practice planning for 1 second first and execute it exactly as per the plan... practice planning for 10 seconds and executing things like a machine ... now practice plannning & execution for 1 minute ... then practice this for 10 minutes then for 1 hour and then for 3 hours and then 6 hours and then finally 24 hours ... this much seems sufficient! :)

4. Remember "knowledge is weightless" : - A fantastic rule invented by me about knowledge ... The more "clear'" you are about any subject the more "weightlessness" you will feel about that ... if you are 100% clear, then instead of feeling any burden, you will feel as if a Hydrogen Baloon is pulling you upwards ...which is the ultimate feeling I know...

5. Sequence of actions : - Never miss the Correct sequence of action ... Many times while executing any simple plan, i mess up with best sequence ... So I am making a habit of doing everything in "optimum sequence" possible for me ... the sequency which looks most efficient ... Just for example If I buy a stock I used watch for a price action happening... then if nothing is moving put the sell order 0.5% ... then after putting sell order when I try to put stoploss order 1% below ... I used to see ,"ohh it is already gone below stoploss!!!" ...and now what ... now rather than accepting the defeat and squaring off my position ...I wait and hope that price rises above and hits the stoploss so that I can sqaureoff!!... but it never happens and price goes below double the stoploss!!! ... So Now finally I square off my position!!! ....and in half or one hour later find that it has hit the sell order!!! ...

... Anyway things are such!... there are many rules made by me I am trying to implement ... And I strive "to be myself" ... It is funny that I "have to" sttrive to be myself!... Because the statements itself looks illogical in itself... but because of my habits like lazyness ... carelessness ... non-organisedness ... I just mess upeverything ... The habits which don't give me pleasure are not consistant with my nature ... So I am not that!! ... So I am trying to substitute them with habits with one which are more consistant with my nature ... But it is REAL tough Job in the world ... this is as if making straight a dog's tale ... I don't want use any artificial hypnosis and/or any kind of stuff like that... I don't want to use any outside methods to transform myself into myself ... So it is taking time ... but surely things now seem to happen on right track ... be it slow but it is really enjoyable journey ...

For a successful trader i think right actions at right time are needed only ... nothing else...any action happened in a day-trade in itself don't care about traders personality until they are right and executed within right time frame ... this is true ... but in the long term it is "personality" that reflects in traders actions ... and in turn his results as a trader ... So personality is the root ... if that is straightened up, success is WRITTEN there...

.... Anyway these all are my views at this time ... which might modify as per further live life experiences ... I just wanted to share if anybody wants to read a honest beginners life ...

regards,
priyanvada
 
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