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AMITBE

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rahulg77 said:
Hi Amit,

How are you? Remember Ratnamani Metals. Well it nearly touched 400- entry was at 308. Thank you for having guided me on my search.

I was just seeing the charts of IPCL. It seems to be in an uptrend. Higher highs and higher lows as well. Well it is quite above the last pivot low so might want to look for a pull back.

But on the weekly charts (candlesticks) there is a big black candle followed by a white candle. Its nearly an bullish engulfing pattern or a piercing pattern. But for the bullish engulfing pattern the chart should be in a clearly difined downtrend. Also the signal line seems to cut the MACD in the weekly.

Your view on the same would be appreciated.

Rgds
Rahul
Hi Rahul...I'm happy for your gains in Ratnamani Metals. You're always welcome.

As for the piercing patterns in candlesticks charting, there is a fundamental point that you must note:
A pattern such as piercing bar is a Bullish Reversal sign.
Some other bullish reversal patterns are Bullish Engulfing, Bullish Harami, Hammer, Morning Doji Star etc.
In order to spot a piercing pattern, one must first look for an existing downtrend.
As you are in the midst of studying candlesticks, I will not get into the details on any of these.

As for IPCL, whether on daily, weekly or monthly charts, the trend is to the up.
On the daily there have been bouts of sideways periods in the recent past, but the trend is certainly to the up.
A piercing pattern at new highs cannot be considered a bullish reversal pattern. It would indicate continued buying where it's more likely to be a continuation pattern.
The next few bars will give confirmation.

In the attached charts, see a few bullish reversal patterns in 'IPCL DAILY'.
The struggle between the bulls and bears is prolonged leading to the final breakout.
Have a look at IPCL WEEKLY, and note what looks like a struggle, is in fact an ascending triangle in formation, before the breakout.

As an example of Bearish Reversal, the Dark Cloud Cover is the opposite of a piercing pattern.
First is a long white day. On the second day there is a black candle with open above the previous day high, with a close within but below the midpoint of the first days body.
In the dark cloud cover chart, the pattern forms on the weekly bar on October 15 2004. I've zoomed into it for better visibility. Have a look at it in your own s/w and note the decline from that point.

As for the signal line, yes, it is below the MACD in daily and weekly.
However, MACD uses Moving Averages and is therefore itself a lagging, trend following indicator.
The next couple of days should also clarify this issue.

Another interesting observation, there is a C&H breakout visible on the daily bar chart, do have a look. In the handle part there are two or three bars that extend well below the acceptable limit, and could likely be 'noise'. But for these it's a near perfect C&H breakout. Again the next moves will clarify this.

Hope this answers your issues, and do get back for any followup if you like.
All the best.
 

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Hi Amit,

I was wandering about Essar-Oil. In last few trading sessions it has gone from 40 something to 60. Today it is being traded around Rs. 65 level (I entered at 40 & exited at 60). Is this growth is due to fundamentals of company or is it the result of speculative buying?

Please provide some in-sight.

Thanx,

-Yash-
 

AMITBE

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jraj said:
Hi Amit,
I got my money "lost" the other day and more in this one big move.Thank you for your help and guidance.

JayRaj
Hi JayRaj...
I'm aware you'd got stopped out of this earlier.
But I'm not sure what you wish to say here.
Do clarify please.
Thanks.
 
AMITBE said:
Hi JayRaj...
I'm aware you'd got stopped out of this earlier.
But I'm not sure what you wish to say here.
Do clarify please.
Thanks.
Hi Amit,

Sorry for the poor english.I reentered Elder again after speaking to you in the chat room.I made back that lost money and much more.Thank you for your help and guidance.

Jay Raj
 
jraj said:
Hi Amit,

Sorry for the poor english.I reentered Elder again after speaking to you in the chat room.I made back that lost money and much more.Thank you for your help and guidance.

Jay Raj
Hi Jay Raj,

I hope you don't mind me saying this..........it is only out of concern and a sincere wish that you succeed.

You had pm'ed me regarding the portfolio size,and had written in this thread of your loss.I had told you that you were not share sizing properly.Where one should risk no more than 2% between entry and stop,you risked 20% and lost all.Now with that remaining portion you risked even more,and got your money back.............But happy as I am that you made your money back,I sincerely request you to stop trading for now and look into the risk management issues and share sizing,etc before putting money back in.You are treading a dangerous path,my friend.And you stand to lose your account and your mental equanimity.

Trading is no Casino........there's a systematic way of pulling money from the markets.Your post is gambling style and frightens me,more than delights me.I hope you do not misunderstand anything I say.........I am just looking out for you.

All the best!
Saint

ps:When you get the time,PM me.Bye
 
Hi Amit,

If you have the time I would appreciate if you could explain me a query put on the technical analysis section. It is about MACD. Also is there any book that would explain the logic behind candlesticks. I am reading candlestic charting by steve Nisson and it does explain a bit of logic but i am still confused about why a hammer and a hanging man need no confirmation but a star needs a confirmation. what I mean is in a evening star the next day a dark candle must be there to confirm the bearish signal. Also a I found candlestic charting very interesting. You think I should study it in depth or just knowing basic reversal and continuation patterns of candlestic would suffice.

Rgds
Rahul
 
Yash said:
Hi Amit,

I was wandering about Essar-Oil. In last few trading sessions it has gone from 40 something to 60. Today it is being traded around Rs. 65 level (I entered at 40 & exited at 60). Is this growth is due to fundamentals of company or is it the result of speculative buying?

Please provide some in-sight.

Thanx,

-Yash-

may be bcoz Oil @ 75 $ ?

Satya
 
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