Re: Stocks To Keep A Close Eye On - Chapter II
HI,
ANANT,
YOU ARE A REAL GEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb::thumb::thumb:
REGARDS,
CNBONDRE
Hi,
You are right with respect to the initial Tgt and SL. The ratio is 1:1.2 because of the calculation of Tgt/SL involved in arriving at these figures for the first time. Let me show the mathematics which is very simple:
Let SL be the stoploss.
Then the target is calculated as 2 times the high minus SL. Therefore,
TGT = 2 X H - SL.
You are calculating P/L based on CMP. Therefore,
LOSS = CMP - SL
PROFIT = TGT - CMP
Therefore, the RR ratio is:
RR = (TGT - CMP) / (CMP - SL)
RR = (2 X H - SL - CMP) / (CMP - SL)
Now, 2 X H is higher than 2 X CMP Therefore,
RR > (2 X CMP - SL - CMP) / (CMP - SL)
RR > (CMP - SL) / (CMP - SL) > 1
Therefore, The RR is > 1 and the factor by which it exceeds 1 works out nearly 0.2 and therefore the RR is 1 : 1.2 approximately for all triggers. But as the targets are achieved and new targets and SL are set the RR increases well beyond 1.2. You can see from the Excel sheet, generally, when first SL is hit the loss is about 10%. In the same Excel Sheet you can also see that when second or higher targets are reached the profits are sometimes more than 100% also.
Now coming to profit on first target, it is not break even or loss. As you have calculated the Reward is about 1.2, the profit is therefore 10%. The overheads (Brokerage, STT etc.) for both legs together will not be more than 1%. Generally, the overheads are about 0.5% for a trade. For Some brokers like ICICI it is about 0.7 to 0.75% per trade. So it would be about 1.5% overall. So, you still make a profit of at lease 8% to 9%.
-Anant
You are right with respect to the initial Tgt and SL. The ratio is 1:1.2 because of the calculation of Tgt/SL involved in arriving at these figures for the first time. Let me show the mathematics which is very simple:
Let SL be the stoploss.
Then the target is calculated as 2 times the high minus SL. Therefore,
TGT = 2 X H - SL.
You are calculating P/L based on CMP. Therefore,
LOSS = CMP - SL
PROFIT = TGT - CMP
Therefore, the RR ratio is:
RR = (TGT - CMP) / (CMP - SL)
RR = (2 X H - SL - CMP) / (CMP - SL)
Now, 2 X H is higher than 2 X CMP Therefore,
RR > (2 X CMP - SL - CMP) / (CMP - SL)
RR > (CMP - SL) / (CMP - SL) > 1
Therefore, The RR is > 1 and the factor by which it exceeds 1 works out nearly 0.2 and therefore the RR is 1 : 1.2 approximately for all triggers. But as the targets are achieved and new targets and SL are set the RR increases well beyond 1.2. You can see from the Excel sheet, generally, when first SL is hit the loss is about 10%. In the same Excel Sheet you can also see that when second or higher targets are reached the profits are sometimes more than 100% also.
Now coming to profit on first target, it is not break even or loss. As you have calculated the Reward is about 1.2, the profit is therefore 10%. The overheads (Brokerage, STT etc.) for both legs together will not be more than 1%. Generally, the overheads are about 0.5% for a trade. For Some brokers like ICICI it is about 0.7 to 0.75% per trade. So it would be about 1.5% overall. So, you still make a profit of at lease 8% to 9%.
-Anant
ANANT,
YOU ARE A REAL GEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb::thumb::thumb:
REGARDS,
CNBONDRE