Stocks To Keep A Close Eye On

[ksesha]

Thanks Savant for the iniative.

Friends,

At first I thought why not a private limited which is easy to setup and operate and started exploring to find why Savant preferred cooperative over Pvt Ltd,

a) In a cooperative organization all the members are treated equal and each member will get one vote irrespective of their equity holding.

b) For a cooperative to have members from multiple states it has to be registered as such.

c) For any individual/organization to trade in the stock market with collected fund they need to get a certification.

Please find attached Some useful information on FAQ's to form a cooperative society.

http://www.iffco.nic.in/application...031e?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=6,5#_Section6

Regards
Sesha

Folks,

On the ongoing round table of RIL......

First thing to understand is Price of RIL is NOT going down because of SEBI Investigation....

During November & December is usually when we see some correction for reasons....posted earlier....& several times....

This is the period when the 'Hot Money' Hedge Funds who are Short Term Players & Intraday Players become a little more aggressive in terms of their trading... to gain as much before closing the account books (U.S. Financial Year Ends 31st December) so they can maximize their Bonus & etc. for that extra spending during the holiday season.... and whatever else they may have promised their spouses & girlfriends.

Check the weightage of RIL, ONGC, SBI & INFY..... on NIFTY 50

While ONGC float in the market is a meagre 5% rest being held by GOI...

RIL - here the case is different in terms floating shares.... considering it is widely held by the Investor community.... but most Individuals Investors who Hold RIL... would rather sell their house instead of RIL.... as a result of such emotional attachment it has become a low float in the markets... and doesn't take huge amount of selling to move the markets.... it is almost at will...
By virtue of it higher weightage on the Index it doesn't require too much selling to move the market by a couple of percentage point in a day.... in conjunction with ONGC, INFY & SBI...

People discuss operators ...moving this scrip or that scrip.... please understand.... the biggest Operators of Our & Any Markets In the World... Are Mutual Funds, FIIs.... Including Hedge Funds of All colour & size....

Our MFs are just Pimps... of FIIs... so don't even try and argue the point quoting returns... You folks have no idea... how much money could have been earned.... instead... arguing about returns of MFs compared to Interest offered by Banks on FDs....

If you all need proof of how much can be earned... suggest form a co-operative... with a corpus... & I will do the Investing & Trading... to show what can be earned.... as usual...Free of Cost

Understand the Power of Collective Action.....is all that is required.

Happy & Safer Investing/Trading

SavantGarde

 

[DanPickUp]

Due to popular demand, I have also written some poetry for DanPickUp.

I know Dan
He is an option man

Dan likes to ride his pick up
When he is having ketchup

I know Dan
He is an option man

English is not Dan's strong point
And his logic is sometimes disjoint

I know Dan
He is an option man

Dan's messages are sometimes cryptic
Perhaps Dan is a little apocalyptic

I know Dan
He is an option man

One thing I do know is that Dan is smart
And he has a very big heart

I know Dan
He is an option man

Don't mind Dan
He has helped me understand

I know Dan
He is an option man

Hi trader_man

What can I say ?

Had to use a few times my English dictionary to translate your poem as you pointed out many not perfect things from me.

I am like I am and I know, that I am by far not perfect. Even than : If I have given back some thing to this forum as it gave specific thoughts to me, I am very thankful.

I wish you all the best in trading and do not give up your talent for poetry ( as it is a gift not all have )

DanPickUp

 

[SavantGarde]

Hi Sesha,

Thanks a ton for your well researched comments & link.

Here is something to understand the benefits of a Co-Op. ...

Find some links of how Anand Milk Co-Op. (Gujarat) got started by Kurien.
There is a film by Shyam Benegal called 'Manthan' most of it financed by the Co-Op. members of Anand.

Key to true benefits for the producers is to remove most of the middlemen.

Idea is of 'Collective Action'

SavantGarde

Thanks Savant for the iniative.

Friends,

At first I thought why not a private limited which is easy to setup and operate and started exploring to find why Savant preferred cooperative over Pvt Ltd,

a) In a cooperative organization all the members are treated equal and each member will get one vote irrespective of their equity holding.

b) For a cooperative to have members from multiple states it has to be registered as such.

c) For any individual/organization to trade in the stock market with collected fund they need to get a certification.

Please find attached Some useful information on FAQ's to form a cooperative society.

http://www.iffco.nic.in/application...031e?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=6,5#_Section6

Regards
Sesha

 

[kaly422000]

Hi Stock,

This may sound cryptic and not answer your query directly...

....normally market takes an elevator to go down & staircase to go up...

...and ofcourse all the best wishes...on your trades...and you make the amount you have aimed for Monday-Tuesday....secret of that would be in standing just a bit longer.... when the market moves against you...

Happy & Safer Trading

SavantGarde

sorry to interpret with my little knowledge but in my case when i short, it act opposite,takes an elevator to go up

 

[DanPickUp]

Mr. DanPickUp
(Am I right to presume that you are the gentleman who has a thread on Options?)

First I must congratulate you for 'picking up' such an intriguingly beautiful ID. It brings a vision in my mind of John Denver driving his PickUp truck on Colarado freeway singing: Country roads, take me home, to the place I belong...!

Second, I am brutally honest. I don't care what sky will fall on me when I open my mouth to question the world. Because I am throughly goofy in every known sense of the word. If you don't believe me, ask Mr. SG or any subscriber of this thread. Therfore, a seemingly intelligent - and a mover and shaker on top - like yourself will never bother to know me, even though we may have beer together.

Third, Please don't feel offended if I say: whatever you just wrote didn't make any sense to me at all. Please read what you wrote, again.

Fourth, Don't you think your post belonged to a section called Private Messages?

Best Regards
Goofy

P.S. Forgive my another presumtion: You are not by any chance one among those shadowy figures surfing this thread anonymously for commodities' options, as Mr. SG pointed out in the post to which you replied?

Hi goofy

I do not own the thread about options. It was my friend AW10 which started the thread and I am one of the few ones, which still post in that thread if asked, as it is a learning thread and not a tip thread.

Being brutally honest is one of my habits, when you followed my post from the begin I joined this forum until today. Open my mouth in many situations has made many here a little bit . So, today I am a little bit more discrete and I learned, that it makes sense at least to me. So, stay with this habit and use it when ever needed.

After going through my post, I have to say, that it could be posted in an PM to Savant. So, I really have to second that.

Thanks for your clear thoughts

DanPickUp

 

[SavantGarde]

Kaly,

That definitely can happen... but under following conditions:

1) Contrarian bet (Trading Against Trend)
2) Analysing the Trend wrongly
3) Risk Appetite in the Low Range

There maybe a few other points.... but above three should suffice in terms of identifying your individual problem

SavantGarde

sorry to interpret with my little knowledge but in my case when i short, it act opposite,takes an elevator to go up

 

[DanPickUp]

Hi Dan,

Please go through your post once again....and if there is anything you want to re-write....please do it before I reply in a few hours.

Happy & Safer Trading

SavantGarde

Hi Savant

After all that post I read here I have to say, that it was a misinterpretation from my side. Sorry !

The good thing on all that : I do not have to go now to the introducing thread to introduce my self now to any body here.:lol:

Have a nice weekend

DanPickUp

 

[SavantGarde]

Hi Dan,

Traderji maybe a small forum.... but this is the ONLY place, where people heard about evidence of U.S. Data improving and that U.S. markets & rest of the world would go up in the months that followed since & it was voiced....HERE

Even Mr.Buffet was late by 5-6 months before his adventure of Burlington North & subsequent comments about U.S. economy improving.

Presently, it is quite common to find the 'Business Suits' talk of being in Bull Market since Feb-Mar '09 as if they gave a buy call then... Please find the biggest of the so called 'Business Suits' as to what they really spoke in the early months of '09 & perhaps through the whole of 2009 to get the true picture.

Happy & Safer Trading

SavantGarde

 

[shinchan]

SG sir.

Yeah. freak highs/lows may happen because of our stupidity or fat fingers etc.,

But, I am at a loss to understand why price travels to those points at a future date. I have seen many such instances to dismiss it as a mere coincidence.

BTW, if a person of your stature says that RIL will be at 850 by such and such date people will take is as gospel truth. whereas a newbie like me has to substantiate it. Hope you understand, why I had to mention about those freak quotes.

Freak Highs/Lows

Happens because of our stupidity.....

Whenever we have Good/Bad Global cues.... we idiots.... put in 'Market Order'
which ofcourse never reaches the exchange as fast as FII/DII orders......whose orders are already their and waiting for Bakras......& there you have the freak Highs/Lows.

Having said it several times before...NEVER...NEVER put Market Orders either for BUY/SELL first thing when the Market starts.....

Now you all should know why the exchanges have Fees for co-location of FII/DII servers on their premises.....

SavantGarde

 

[DanPickUp]

Hi Dan,

Traderji maybe a small forum.... but this is the ONLY place, where people heard about evidence of U.S. Data improving and that U.S. markets & rest of the world would go up in the months that followed since & it was voiced....HERE

Even Mr.Buffet was late by 5-6 months before his adventure of Burlington North & subsequent comments about U.S. economy improving.

Presently, it is quite common to find the 'Business Suits' talk of being in Bull Market since Feb-Mar '09 as if they gave a buy call then... Please find the biggest of the so called 'Business Suits' as to what they really spoke in the early months of '09 & perhaps through the whole of 2009 to get the true picture.

Happy & Safer Trading

SavantGarde

Hi Savant

Big or small. So what ? Quality is the word for the post's in any forum and thread in this world and there are incredible many high quality post in your forum. Hope I get this point clear now and today. By the way : Thank you again and again.

Frankly spoken : I do not use any comments for any of my trades, when I trade and I do not follow any threads here ore some where else, which give any comments about market direction or so what ever. LOST TIME.

For time frames of 30 till 60 days, I use only a simple chart with no indicator. ( I guess, the same you do . For fundamental data, we have advisers. Very simple system. Nice to know such professors and directors of banks, but I do give a sh**** about it, as I only assist as long as I want and then I am back on the screen for what I want to do

I then buy otm options on mathematical calculations. ( Have posted about that in the " Dan's trading thread from AW10 " )

If I get hit, my strategy battle field plans come in place and there are many of them ( around 50 for different markets and time frames ) as I have to be as flexible as possible. If this plans come in place, I am unbeatable ! Sounds crazy and it is like it is So what ? I still have to make pipi after drinking a beer

If I have to go for non personal investments, I create ETF, ETC and ETN portfolios beside the share portfolios.

What ever is about any market direction where ever in any market, I not can predict it precisely with all the research knowledge we have !

Only thing I can say precisely : Short time frame = Chart / Long time frame = Fundamentals

Raunak and you are more in prediction share moves or Nifty moves. I am not. After I am hit, I just act as market demands me to do ( Your way of trading, just done with an other derivative )

Take care

DanPickUp