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Arsh

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Petrol price hike will not help the struggling Rupee as it's not a part of the fiscal budget... this is just a technique to hide away for the govt...

The real bullet to bite is raising the cost of diesel, LPG & Kerosene which have direct impact on Rupee and our fiscal deficits... But am sure the govt won't do that...:clapping:

Petrol price hike is not going to help us, it's just meant for the oil companies...:rofl:

Must Read this:

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/05/23/india-petrol-price-hike-idINDEE84M0B420120523
 

SavantGarde

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Hello SG,

So where are you expecting markets to bottom out this year. I read about 4200 levels in one of your threads.

Also one question,How do a long term investor should react to such bearish market. At what levels can one start buying for next 2-3 years. Or would even Indian markets be bullish in 2-3 years. i have my doubts :)
Hi Blitzz,

Scrips need to be picked on individual merits.....in every type of market there will be Scrips that move up while overall market grinds down....!!!

There is no single answer to fit everybody.....!!!

Investors need to make an entry when the Technicals signal a buy......that is the only way to avoid making big mistake....& ofcourse Position Sizing is very critical to an Investor as well as a Trader.....!!!


SG
 

vikrit

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Assuming, FIIs pumped in millions when Rupee was at Rs. 50/- and if they pull out now, they will end up losing approx. 12% since rupee is now at Rs. 56/- and still falling !
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question is - why they will pull out now? are they stupid? no not at all. even if they have/want to, then also they are in huge profit not loss. for ex - if they bought a put at 50 rupees now it is at 250, even at 12% depreciated rate, they get back more than three times.

and also serious traders who trade in other countries or commodities they always have a eye on FOREX.

Another way of looking...it is nice time to start bringing in the dollars... they get more rupees for investment and etc......!!!
ya definitely they are.

yes, very true ... that the optimistic way of looking at this!

but are the FIIs optimistic now is a big ?


:)

OPTIMISTIC to invest money??? for what they should optimistic??? TRADING!!!!!??? OR about India's Growth/future/deficit/economy blah blah.......??


we easily get impressed by so called intellectuals on TV, in govt. etc, according to whom if FII will continue investing money or increase it, India will start shining, may be one day whole India will land on MOON too. :lol:

everybody wants profit, if FII invested 100 rupees in 1992, till now they have taken out more than 1000 rupees earned on that, and this is continuing.

when FII are heavily shorting (in my understanding, that is also a investment), are they OPTIMISTIC about india/market?. They are betting, how fast it can sink. In fact, some of them are sure at least about markets, b/c BSE and NSE highly operators controlled markets.


tell me, for putting/investing our money to short nifty future or buy put or write call, do we need to be OPTIMISTIC for Indian economy????? :D


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believe u did'nt get the point ... while SG got what I meant ....

just to elaborate ...

what you essentially mean is the short term perspective of trading !

and Stock markets around the world work in cycles ; with these FIIs being participants across the world (and with currency fluctuations relative to Dollar) they do make profits .... and it is one of their business !

the comment essentially means a relative loss of 12% (to dollar) if pulling out when Rupee is at 56 vs 50 ....

whether you write or buy options .... u need to be optimistic to make money!



question is - why they will pull out now? are they stupid? no not at all. even if they have/want to, then also they are in huge profit not loss. for ex - if they bought a put at 50 rupees now it is at 250, even at 12% depreciated rate, they get back more than three times.

and also serious traders who trade in other countries or commodities they always have a eye on FOREX.



ya definitely they are.




OPTIMISTIC to invest money??? for what they should optimistic??? TRADING!!!!!??? OR about India's Growth/future/deficit/economy blah blah.......??


we easily get impressed by so called intellectuals on TV, in govt. etc, according to whom if FII will continue investing money or increase it, India will start shining, may be one day whole India will land on MOON too. :lol:

everybody wants profit, if FII invested 100 rupees in 1992, till now they have taken out more than 1000 rupees earned on that, and this is continuing.

when FII are heavily shorting (in my understanding, that is also a investment), are they OPTIMISTIC about india/market?. They are betting, how fast it can sink. In fact, some of them are sure at least about markets, b/c BSE and NSE highly operators controlled markets.


tell me, for putting/investing our money to short nifty future or buy put or write call, do we need to be OPTIMISTIC for Indian economy????? :D


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vikrit

Well-Known Member
believe u did'nt get the point ... while SG got what I meant ....

just to elaborate ...

what you essentially mean is the short term perspective of trading !

and Stock markets around the world work in cycles ; with these FIIs being participants across the world (and with currency fluctuations relative to Dollar) they do make profits .... and it is one of their business !
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didn't get what you mean by optimistic that's why asked. thanks, now got it.. :)

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EagleOne

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question is - why they will pull out now? are they stupid? no not at all. even if they have/want to, then also they are in huge profit not loss. for ex - if they bought a put at 50 rupees now it is at 250, even at 12% depreciated rate, they get back more than three times.

and also serious traders who trade in other countries or commodities they always have a eye on FOREX.



ya definitely they are.




OPTIMISTIC to invest money??? for what they should optimistic??? TRADING!!!!!??? OR about India's Growth/future/deficit/economy blah blah.......??


we easily get impressed by so called intellectuals on TV, in govt. etc, according to whom if FII will continue investing money or increase it, India will start shining, may be one day whole India will land on MOON too. :lol:

everybody wants profit, if FII invested 100 rupees in 1992, till now they have taken out more than 1000 rupees earned on that, and this is continuing.

when FII are heavily shorting (in my understanding, that is also a investment), are they OPTIMISTIC about india/market?. They are betting, how fast it can sink. In fact, some of them are sure at least about markets, b/c BSE and NSE highly operators controlled markets.


tell me, for putting/investing our money to short nifty future or buy put or write call, do we need to be OPTIMISTIC for Indian economy????? :D


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Bravo, Vikrit. :thumb:
 

Blitzz

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Was long from 4830 lvls(in multiple instruments). Covered at 486X lvls. Shorted at 4875 Sl hit at 4895. Again shorted at 4903. Covrd at 487X.

1st position was heavy. Next 2 were for fun :)
6.6k gain till now.

Looking for long entry now.
 

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