Thoughts on Day/Swing Trading Part 2

praveen98

Well-Known Member
Is there anybody who use software which provides P&F chart with finest levels for Nifty & India stocks?

If yes, can you please share your findings & settings for different timeframes ?
Hi Trade4joisar,
I am using Bulls eye broker version 4 software for charting....which allows you to adjust Box size and reversal size...Please see the tech mahindra chart
All the Best,
praveen
 
Last edited:

praveen98

Well-Known Member
1. What reversal value we should keep for P&F? I changed from 3 to 5 charts looks completely different. So it depend on for which market we are using it for?

2. How to interpret sequence & alphabets as mentioned in below chart?

3. How to interpret lines drawn ?


http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2206/72674875.jpg

Hi Trade4joisar

First of all: I am not a very in dept P&F specialist. Have had some education on it. The purpose of that education was to be able to use P&F for very practical usages and not in dept as a technical analyst.

1. There is no just one possibility as different markets and different time frames have there own box size and reversal amounts. What I do when using P&F: I play around with it and the picture which makes most sense to me, is the one I use. For small time frames quit useful to see the S&R levels. Bigger time frames show the S&R quit nicely even with bars when changing the periodicity to three days, five days and bigger time frames. By the way: I use Metastock Pro as charting software and they offer a lot in this software.

Traditional P&F settings: http://i45.tinypic.com/357qelh.png

Reversal explained: http://i50.tinypic.com/2ptse4i.png

2. No idea what's behind it. Doe's the page you got this pic from not explain what they want to explain with that?

3. Maybe trend lines. But also here: No explanation on the page given? What I can see: Those lines always cross a rectangle exactly through the middle.

Good trading

DanPickUp
Hi trade4joisar,
please visit the following link...which is a thread initiated by me on pnf charting ...it may answer your question 2...
http://www.traderji.com/technical-analysis/42121-point-figure-charting.html

Those numbers and alphabets are the first markings of a month on a pnf chart....The months are indicated by 1 to 9 for January to September and A, B, C respectively for the months of October, November and December...
Those lines are called trend lines....
All the best,
praveen
 

trade4joisar

Well-Known Member
Hi trade4joisar,
please visit the following link...which is a thread initiated by me on pnf charting ...it may answer your question 2...
http://www.traderji.com/technical-analysis/42121-point-figure-charting.html

Those numbers and alphabets are the first markings of a month on a pnf chart....The months are indicated by 1 to 9 for January to September and A, B, C respectively for the months of October, November and December...
Those lines are called trend lines....
All the best,
praveen
In one of the post you have attached modified excel sheet, but i dont find it there. Can you again attach it here?
 

praveen98

Well-Known Member
In one of the post you have attached modified excel sheet, but i dont find it there. Can you again attach it here?
Hi Trade4joisar,

Now the Excel file format is not among the supported file formats to be attached in this forum...it is allowing only bitmap,gif etc..etc..

Please pm me your mail id so that i can send you the excel sheet to you....

All the Best,
praveen
 

rangarajan

Well-Known Member
Today's chart of Bajajauto-cash is attached.5minTF.

Twice there was B/D after consolidation,but failed with subsequent Green candle.
Second time ,the low of the previous Bear candle was also Breached,but still failed with Green candle.

Nodoubt,third time,the stock came down,but Not appreciably compared to its price.

Pl discuss what went wrong w r t Smart's strategy of Trading B/o



Uploaded with ImageShack.us
 
Amalgamation of Timeframes

Posting todays Nifty Futures 5 min chart :



The chart shows a sell signal on 5 min timeframe. Also see the areas marked by red ellipse which is a support area and we should cover our short positions here.

Now let us see what the 15 min charts was showing when 5 min was giving a sell signal :



15 min chart also showing a clear sell.....if you see 30 min chart also you will see a inverted hammer with long tail which is a reversal sign.

So all timeframes are agreeing on sell trade and this is called timeframe amalgamation. When 2 or more timeframes agree on a trade, that trade has a high probability of success....and our NF trade had all the timeframes speaking the same thing all togather.

Note : This is not my idea, I have learnt this timeframe amalgamation from Saint and we were using it in Intraday miniflow method which we used to trade.

Though I trade different methods now, but timeframe amalgamation is something I always see and find it very useful in taking high probability trades.

Happy Trading,

Smart_trade
 
Amalgamation of Timeframes

Posting todays Nifty Futures 5 min chart :



The chart shows a sell signal on 5 min timeframe. Also see the areas marked by red ellipse which is a support area and we should cover our short positions here.

Now let us see what the 15 min charts was showing when 5 min was giving a sell signal :



15 min chart also showing a clear sell.....if you see 30 min chart also you will see a inverted hammer with long tail which is a reversal sign.

So all timeframes are agreeing on sell trade and this is called timeframe amalgamation. When 2 or more timeframes agree on a trade, that trade has a high probability of success....and our NF trade had all the timeframes speaking the same thing all togather.

Note : This is not my idea, I have learnt this timeframe amalgamation from Saint and we were using it in Intraday miniflow method which we used to trade.

Though I trade different methods now, but timeframe amalgamation is something I always see and find it very useful in taking high probability trades.

Happy Trading,

Smart_trade
I think moving from a lower TF to a higher TF more often than not one would see amalgamation. Lets say there is a HnS forming in a 5 min chart then if you go on to see a 15 min chart the neckline can also be drawn in a 15 min chart & in a 60min chart there might not be a HnS to look at but still a few Hourly candles with support or a bearish hourly candle might be seen. It would be interesting to see cases where amalgamation is not happening.
 
I think moving from a lower TF to a higher TF more often than not one would see amalgamation. Lets say there is a HnS forming in a 5 min chart then if you go on to see a 15 min chart the neckline can also be drawn in a 15 min chart & in a 60min chart there might not be a HnS to look at but still a few Hourly candles with support or a bearish hourly candle might be seen. It would be interesting to see cases where amalgamation is not happening.
Small tiny pivot breaks,a small correction in the form of a flag dont normally have timeframe amalgamation and the timeframe amalgamation saves us from entering into such trades which are against the main trend. These trades have very low success rate and hence best be avoided.

I will try to post some trades which donot have timeframe amalgamation going for them.

Smart_trade
 
Thomas DeMark's Sequential Method



Most of the methods I trade are trend following methods and I do not attempt to forecast the trend, targets,reversals etc. But a few techniques are my favourite which are trend anticipatory techniques and these methods anticipate exhaustion of the existing trend and likely reversal. One such method is TD Sequential.

I have posted above the Nifty Futures daily timeframe chart with Sequential set up and countdown markings. we have today completed 10 days of count down out of total 13 required. We want day 13 close to be above day 6 close.

There is a TD Sequential thread in TJ....traders who are interested in learning more can refer to that thread. I will post same chart in that thread too....

Smart_trade
 

Similar threads