Trading through Gann Angles

anup

Well-Known Member
#61
After making the above post I realized, I should post something for you which should pleasantly surprise you. You will instantly recognize what it is. Please download the Excel file from
http://www.mediafire.com/?f06essiwf3nt23l
:D:D:D
The market is nifty.

Please answer the Question 1 in detail, requested in previous post. After which you will come to know (with live working examples)
What Gann meant by saying this in page 56 of Tunnel Thru the Air.

EZEKIEL:32:7:
AND WHEN I SHALL PUT THEE OUT, I WILL COVER THE HEAVEN AND MAKE THE STARS THEREOF DARK; I WILL COVER THE SUN WITH A CLOUD, AND THE MOON SHALL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT
I downloaded your excel, its all greek and latin to me.. didnt understood anything..Please expalin your excel
 

DPKAUR

Well-Known Member
#62
After making the above post I realized, I should post something for you which should pleasantly surprise you. You will instantly recognize what it is. Please download the Excel file from
http://www.mediafire.com/?f06essiwf3nt23l
:D:D:D
The market is nifty.

Please answer the Question 1 in detail, requested in previous post. After which you will come to know (with live working examples)
What Gann meant by saying this in page 56 of Tunnel Thru the Air.

EZEKIEL:32:7:
AND WHEN I SHALL PUT THEE OUT, I WILL COVER THE HEAVEN AND MAKE THE STARS THEREOF DARK; I WILL COVER THE SUN WITH A CLOUD, AND THE MOON SHALL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT
Prashant_trader
frankly speaking i am still learning gann system .Not perfect like you. I will greatful to you if you please let us all know that what does this .xls file says about....
Thanks in advance
DK
 
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#63
Hi DP,

It was the known fact that Gann was using planetary lines to trade, otherwise he could not have made that famous trade of wheat, (Sep30th 1909).
when he predicted that September wheat would sell at $1.20. This meant that it must touch that price before the end of the month of September.

At twelve o'clock, Chicago time, on September 30th (the last day) the option was selling below $1.08, and it looked as though his prediction would not be fulfilled.

Mr. Gann said "if it does not touch $1.20 by the close of the market it will prove that there is something wrong with my whole method of calculation. I do not care what the price is now, it must go there." It is common history that September wheat surprised the whole country by selling at $1.20 and no higher in the very last hour of the trading, closing at that figure."

In less than an hour and 15 minutes later it had moved from $1.07 all the way upwards to trade at W.D. Gann's predicted price of $1.20 and no higher.

HE WAS RIGHT UPTO CENT THE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT THE AID OF PLANETARY LINES, BECAUSE HE KNEW WHAT PLANETARY LINE IS GONNA ACT AS RESISTANCE.

Gann's soyabean chart survived and is in public domain, you can see Gann was using planetary lines, check here

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~profitable/gannchart.html
also check here
http://www.educatedanalyst.com/gann-planetary-lines

That's the key what Gann was doing.

Here in the excel sheet
I have used Nifty EOD data
the planetary lines are for Jupiter, the data is Geocentric.

You can see it's giving you a broad range of the market movement, the way to see it is if it has crossed certain planetary line, it has a good chance to reach the next planetary line

DP in the field of Gann research/studies one would be forever a student
and will keep on learning/discovering, so I am also a student just like you.
I am not into Gann, I am into Jenkins, my methods are geometrical in nature.
May I please request you again to answer the two questions, because when a chart is properly squared it's inherent geometry is clearly visible.

PS: Moderators I just hope posting a website link is not an offence, if it is please remove the link and pardon me, and the people reading it can google, Gann wheat trade, Gann Soyabean Chart you will get it!
 

justy

Active Member
#64
Hi DP,

It was the known fact that Gann was using planetary lines to trade, otherwise he could not have made that famous trade of wheat, (Sep30th 1909).
when he predicted that September wheat would sell at $1.20. This meant that it must touch that price before the end of the month of September.

At twelve o'clock, Chicago time, on September 30th (the last day) the option was selling below $1.08, and it looked as though his prediction would not be fulfilled.

Mr. Gann said "if it does not touch $1.20 by the close of the market it will prove that there is something wrong with my whole method of calculation. I do not care what the price is now, it must go there." It is common history that September wheat surprised the whole country by selling at $1.20 and no higher in the very last hour of the trading, closing at that figure."

In less than an hour and 15 minutes later it had moved from $1.07 all the way upwards to trade at W.D. Gann's predicted price of $1.20 and no higher.

HE WAS RIGHT UPTO CENT THE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT THE AID OF PLANETARY LINES, BECAUSE HE KNEW WHAT PLANETARY LINE IS GONNA ACT AS RESISTANCE.

Gann's soyabean chart survived and is in public domain, you can see Gann was using planetary lines, check here

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~profitable/gannchart.html
also check here
http://www.educatedanalyst.com/gann-planetary-lines

That's the key what Gann was doing.

Here in the excel sheet
I have used Nifty EOD data
the planetary lines are for Jupiter, the data is Geocentric.

You can see it's giving you a broad range of the market movement, the way to see it is if it has crossed certain planetary line, it has a good chance to reach the next planetary line

DP in the field of Gann research/studies one would be forever a student
and will keep on learning/discovering, so I am also a student just like you.
I am not into Gann, I am into Jenkins, my methods are geometrical in nature.
May I please request you again to answer the two questions, because when a chart is properly squared it's inherent geometry is clearly visible.

PS: Moderators I just hope posting a website link is not an offence, if it is please remove the link and pardon me, and the people reading it can google, Gann wheat trade, Gann Soyabean Chart you will get it!
Hi Prashant & DP
It seems that u both have great knowledge in Gann technique. I request you both that please enlighten all with your knowledge as it is well said that the only way to increase knowledge is to share it.It will be beneficial for all as this is the only purpose of Traderji.And Prashant please enable your private message so that i can send you some great stuff on Jenkins & Gann
Thanks
justy
 

justy

Active Member
#65
Hi Prashant & DP
It seems that u both have great knowledge in Gann technique. I request you both that please enlighten all with your knowledge as it is well said that the only way to increase knowledge is to share it.It will be beneficial for all as this is the only purpose of Traderji.And Prashant please enable your private message so that i can send you some great stuff on Jenkins & Gann
Thanks
justy
 
#66
Hi DP,

I requested to answer two questions in post 62 and 63, leave that, dont bother. I have figured it out. The solution will work in all kinds of chart, squared, non squared, scaled unscaled, stretched, compressed...all kind of them.

Logic is THE GEOMETRY OF NEXT SWING IS VISIBLE IN PRIOR SWINGS. Yaa phir Hindi main bole to "" Poot ke pao palne main dikh jaate hain"" :)

It seems like good Lohri for me!
Happy Lohri to you guys as well......
will post!
 

a1b1trader

Well-Known Member
#67
Hi Prashant & DP
It seems that u both have great knowledge in Gann technique. I request you both that please enlighten all with your knowledge as it is well said that the only way to increase knowledge is to share it.It will be beneficial for all as this is the only purpose of Traderji.And Prashant please enable your private message so that i can send you some great stuff on Jenkins & Gann
Thanks
justy
Sorry justy
Prashant can not enable his pm till some more time and I also think you yourself can not enable your pm for some more time.

You yourself said "that the only way to increase knowledge is to share it" then isn't it better, if you share that great stuff on Jenkins & Gann with other members as well.
 
#68
Hi DP,

I did not correctly square the chart nor did I scale the chart as I do not have an Ensign/Wave59/MarketAnalyst, only these
softwares have the capability of generating a squared chart. Softwares like Amibroker/Tradestation/Metastock/Metatrader does not

reproduce a squared chart. I was looking for the solution AS WHEN A CHART IS CORRECTLY SQUARED THE INHERENT GEOMETRY OF THE
PLOTTED MARKET IS EASILY VISIBLE. A SQUARED CHART IS THE CHART WERE 1 UNIT OF TIME WILL REFLECT THE 1 UNIT OF PRICE MOVEMENT.
I even tried doing it in graph paper,( purchased stationery worth 800/-).......par graph paper chota pad jata hai :) here I am talking
about graph paper used by Architects and Engineering drawing :) No wonder when Gann died from his office so many charts came out his

office that it required an entire truck to take all of them.......as claimed by Lambert Gann Publishing Co.

Ok so I did some out of box thinking. What I realized that even my chart is a chart it is reflecting price and time movement, so instead
of placing a fan at the bottom or top as all the books and softwares show, LET THE BASIS OF THE FAN BE THE SWING ITSELF, and as they
say rest is history :)

See for your self!

This will also explain two concepts of Mr Gann. which is his gift to the world of technical Analysis.
1. GANN ALWAYS EMPHASIZED ON 50% RETRACEMENT, this is what he meant, see for your self.
2. GANN COINED 45DEG ANGLE, you can see 45deg angle of a prior swing is an imp angle and so are the other angles.

In the courses of Gann ( courses by WD Gann himself) he does show the Gann fan, he does not show it any were
that he was putting it in top or bottom of the swing, that's the beauty of a Gann course, every thing will be
there right in front of your eyes still you need to decipher them.

And I believe it makes sense because every stock/index/market has its own degree of inclination/declination and one cant put the same

set of angles for all of them, it should be accustomed as per the particular stock.

you can download the excel sheet from here.

http://www.mediafire.com/?w0sdx77j4d09sd0

CAUTION::::::
HAVING WRITTEN ABOVE, I REALIZED THAT WITH JUST ONE POSTING I AM CREATING LOT OF TROUBLE FOR ALL THE SOFTWARE MAKERS, GANN AUTHORS :)
LET ME LEAVE A DISCLAIMER:: IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO DO SO, IT IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THE THINGS OR ARRIVING AT A CONCLUSION.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN ORDER TO SEE A PARTICULAR MARKET IS OVERSOLD OR OVERBOUGHT, ONE CAN USE STOCHASTICS, ONE CAN USE RSI AS WELL, ONE CAN
USE MACD ASWELL, ONE'S CHOICE OF TOOL IS HIS PERSONAL CHOICE.

DP! YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB CONTINUE WITH THAT DONT MAKE ANY CHANGES WITH THE WAY YOU HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE THINGS.
IF YOU LIKE THIS METHOD ADD TO YOUR TRADING ARSENAL ELSE LEAVE IT. IN THE WORLD OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS WE COME ACROSS MANY
IDEAS/CONCEPTS/STRATEGIES/METHODS, WE DO NOT INCORPORATE ALL OF THEM, WE USE THE CONCEPTS WHICH WE LIKE/UNDERSTAND/HAVE FAITH AND

COMFORTABLE WITH.
IT IS ONLY AN ATTEMPT ON MY PART TO FIGURE A SOLUTION OF A PROBLEM WHICH WAS BOTHERING ME FROM A LONG TIME, AND I DID IT
BY TWEAKING THE TOOL ITSELF :) AS LONG AS IT WORK'S I WILL SAY " WHAT AN IDEA SIRJEE" :)




Alright few post above I mentioned
What Gann meant by saying this in page 56 of Tunnel Thru the Air.

EZEKIEL:32:7:
AND WHEN I SHALL PUT THEE OUT, I WILL COVER THE HEAVEN AND MAKE THE STARS THEREOF DARK; I WILL COVER THE SUN WITH A CLOUD, AND THE MOON SHALL NOT GIVE HER LIGHT



I WOULD HAVE ANSWERED THIS CLUE IF DP HAD CARED TO ANSWER FOR THE QUESTIONS REQUESTED :)
NOW SINCE I MANAGED THE PROBLEM, LET ME REVEAL IT ANYWAY AND CONSIDER IT A LOHRI GIFT FROM ME!

SOMETHING ABOUT TUNNEL THRU THE AIR ::: people use to ask Gann what is the secret and his courses were very expensive,
so he decided to write a novel in which he had hidden clues of the market. On the surface it looks like a romantic novel
but it is not, it is full of poetry, references from Bible. Mr Gann wrote very clearly in the forward that you have to read
it atleast 3 times, I have read it 5 times kuch palle nahin pada :)

Every word, date, poetry, number, dialogue, even the page no. has a meaning in it. Google it you will easily get it.
Pay special attention to the Gann Emblem made of a circle, triangle and a square. Mr Gann was leaving a messege
for the readers, he was saying that ASTROLOGY WORKS, he was giving the references of 90deg, 60deg, 30deg, 120deg, 180deg and 360deg,
he was also saying GEOMETRY ALSO WORKS

WHAT IS THE CLUE::: it is one of the clues, the book is full of clues it is one of them, and this quote is giving reference of
ECLIPSES. Both Lunar and Solar eclipse.

WHAT I DID::: I collected the data of past eclipses and plotted a line on those dates, and as they rest is history.
Data is in front of you, the charts are in front of you, see for yourself.
While performing this task I realized that both lunar and solar eclipse come togather, not only on/near the particular date
a pivot is expected but also there is a good chance to see its impact 90/180 days AFTER AND PRIOR of the eclipse
combining this with good money management and stoploss is suggested.

you can download the excel sheet from here.

http://www.mediafire.com/?iqp3g6k2ivug9ys


Justy! Thanks for the offer, as of now I am looking for a book which is T H E P O L A R I T Y F A C T O R by D a n i e l l e P r a n d e l l i,
if you have that let me know.
 

DPKAUR

Well-Known Member
#70
Hi DP,

Thanks for your quick response and
many thanks for your reply, will try that! :thumb:

I would like to bother you with two more questions, and this would be the last time, please care to answer.

1. How do we arrive at the decision what would be the appropriate no. of points for price for 1 unit of the time, (for e.g here in this case it is 50 points of price for 1 unit of time.) Is it related with the first leg.

2. For the dailies (nifty), what is the appropriate unit of price for 1 unit of day.


I look forward to your answer.
Hi all,
Well Prashant ji first of all I would like to say sorry to you for replying you so late as I was not in the city because of some family functions. And I would also like to thank you for drawing my attention to see the markets from a new angle (described by you). As you rightly said that everyone will remain a student in learning Gann theories. So I am trying to answer your Question No.1 In this way u can square time & price . Draw horizontal lines @ these readings and see the magic. In the same way we can calculate the future dates and the price range from 4531 to 6083 (high on 18th Jan2013) assuming that time & Price has squared with each other. If 6083 is taken out in the forthcoming days the cycle will be changed and we have to calculate once again from 4531 to a new high..

Cycle : Zero Degrees Level 05/11/2010 6338.50(HIGH)

360 Degrees Level 20/12/2011 4531.15(LOW)

PRICE DIFF. : 6338.5 4531.15 = 1807.35

DAYS DIFF . : 410 DAYS.

FALL = 360 DEGREES.

1 DEGREE = 1807.35/360 = 5.02 POINTS APPROX.

TIME UNIT = 410/360 = 1.14 DAYS(APPROX)

PRICE UNITS : TIME UNITS(DATES)

0 DEGREE = 6338.50 (05/11/2010)

45 DEGREE = 6112.60 (26/12/2010)

90 DEGREE = 5886.70 (15/02/2011)

135 DEGREE = 5660.80 (07/04/2011)

180 DEGREE = 5434.90 (28/05/2011)

225 DEGREE = 5209.00 (18/07/2011)

270 DEGREE = 4983.10 (07/09/2011)

315 DEGREE = 4757.20 (28/10/2011)

360 DEGREE = 4531.15 (20/12/2011)
Above calculations are done assuming we have made an important bottom at 4531.15 on 20.12.2011
Hope I have sorted out some part of ur query.
 

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