Trading with Volume Spread Analysis (VSA)

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Hi Nimish, I am taking a contrary view. Most of the people around me are bearish. However, I feel we are at the bottom of the next bullish move(Which will take NIFTY above 5300). You might recollect that today's movement was similar to that when there was "bad news" about Dubai World's loan defaults. Both these day's were Friday's and we were on almost the top before starting these moves. On both days. the market opened with a gap-down.

As I have pointed out before, many stock have pushed through their trading ranges and there is little evidence of selling - this confirms that market players have taken a bullish view. They are now just trying to trap shorts, trigger stops, etc - in one word "Manipulation". If this was any serious correction, mid-caps and small caps would have crashed and had lower-circuits as if there will be no trading from tomorrow.

But the truth is that we make money based on price, and not on price-and-volume. If we take a short position in a genuine weak market, we can hope for profit. But if we take short position in a manipulated market, we never know when the market would go back to its real strength and lock us into a poor position. This has happened with me.

Check for yourself the volumes in other stocks. Many stocks have given nice low-volume tests or shake-outs. You will see high-volume in some charts, but you will notice that those stocks are near well-established supportive trend-lines, including the widely tracked NIFTY.

As I write this, the US market is still in red.
Why take bullish or bearish view of the market? Many knowledgeable and senior members like Saint, Savant , Kartik etc been telling that treat trend as ur friend. So pl notice that uptrendline since March 2009 is broken. Last major Pivot of 22nd Dec 4953.35 is touched by a whisker on 22nd Jan 4954.85. Looks like it may bounce back from here and I whole heartedly support ur bullish view. I too have my money riding on bullish view of the market.

-Anoop Kumar:thumb:
 

bunny

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Why take bullish or bearish view of the market? Many knowledgeable and senior members like Saint, Savant , Kartik etc been telling that treat trend as ur friend. So pl notice that uptrendline since March 2009 is broken. Last major Pivot of 22nd Dec 4953.35 is touched by a whisker on 22nd Jan 4954.85. Looks like it may bounce back from here and I whole heartedly support ur bullish view. I too have my money riding on bullish view of the market.

-Anoop Kumar:thumb:
One support line may be broken, but another one has taken its place. Please see this weekly chart. Also, if the trendline that you are speaking about, is adjusted a little bit, it still holds true.
 

bunny

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Reference sheet for Volume Spread Analysis (VSA)

Hi guys,
I have prepared a reference sheet of various peculiar bars that are of significance in VSA. Those who are interested, please download it, go through it, and give as much as suggestions as possible. You can also bring to notice any typos, grammatical mistakes or inconsistent vocabulary.

I have not included charts as yet.

Download from here: http://www.4shared.com/file/205236267/4c92c57d/vsa-dd-bunny.html

[I have tried to make the layout look as professional as I could with my amateur skills in MS-WORD.]
 
One support line may be broken, but another one has taken its place. Please see this weekly chart. Also, if the trendline that you are speaking about, is adjusted a little bit, it still holds true.
Its always advisable to use logarthmic Y-axis if u r viewing any stock/nifty over longer period. I hope u r doing that and if so it should not necessiate any adjustment of trendline.

-Anoop Kumar
 

rajeabc

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Re: Reference sheet for Volume Spread Analysis (VSA)

Hi guys,
I have prepared a reference sheet of various peculiar bars that are of significance in VSA. Those who are interested, please download it, go through it, and give as much as suggestions as possible. You can also bring to notice any typos, grammatical mistakes or inconsistent vocabulary.

I have not included charts as yet.

Download from here: http://www.4shared.com/file/205236267/4c92c57d/vsa-dd-bunny.html

[I have tried to make the layout look as professional as I could with my amateur skills in MS-WORD.]
hi bunny , nice doc and I appreciate your effort. Would it be good to give examples (charts) for each of your point for better understanding ?

Thanks
 

AW10

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Re: Reference sheet for Volume Spread Analysis (VSA)

Hi guys,
I have prepared a reference sheet of various peculiar bars that are of significance in VSA. Those who are interested, please download it, go through it, and give as much as suggestions as possible. You can also bring to notice any typos, grammatical mistakes or inconsistent vocabulary.

I have not included charts as yet.

Download from here: http://www.4shared.com/file/205236267/4c92c57d/vsa-dd-bunny.html

[I have tried to make the layout look as professional as I could with my amateur skills in MS-WORD.]
Bunny Thanks for the doc. Another tool for me to understand VSA.
Just want your opinion on -
WRB with close near the edge (say near high) with heavy volume - As per VSA / yr doc, it suggest buying climax and hence reversal is around the corner.
I can agree with it when I see this bar after a rally.. but when it is just after the accumulation range, then probably, my interpretation is other way. To me it shows the strength with which mkt is trying to come out from accumulation.. A large move up till distribution zone hits us, is in the offing.

Am I right in my understanding of reading this bar with respect to its position in 4 phases of market cycle OR this bar has same meaning irrespective of the phase ?

I use Toby Crabel's pattern like (NR7, WS7 etc). He has also spoken about 90-10 patterns ie. where the bar closes in 90% of todays range (i.e. bullish indication), or 10% of the range (i.e. bearish indication).. And these bars in almost 80%+ of cases extends the trend in next bar.. in the same direction.. (and might see reversal, or continuation depending on other factors). So from that perspective, my reading of such WRB is quite opposite of what u are mentioning.

Just want to know your views and open to learn it from the perspective of VSA ?

Happy Trading.
 

bunny

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Re: Reference sheet for Volume Spread Analysis (VSA)

Just want your opinion on -
WRB with close near the edge (say near high) with heavy volume - As per VSA / yr doc, it suggest buying climax and hence reversal is around the corner.
I can agree with it when I see this bar after a rally.. but when it is just after the accumulation range, then probably, my interpretation is other way. To me it shows the strength with which mkt is trying to come out from accumulation.. A large move up till distribution zone hits us, is in the offing.

Am I right in my understanding of reading this bar with respect to its position in 4 phases of market cycle OR this bar has same meaning irrespective of the phase ?
Yes you are correct. Other than buying climax, similar bar is seen in "Pushing up through supply"(I have mentioned in the doc). In most cases, these bars will be across a trading range to their left.
 

rajputz

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i have got one PDF....the writer inside it is named karthik marar.....the books is written a way that it looks like created by some thread.....its of 31 pages and the topic is VSA-Volume Spread analysis....i think it is collected by some one on traderji only...should i post the pdf here???????
 
i have got one PDF....the writer inside it is named karthik marar.....the books is written a way that it looks like created by some thread.....its of 31 pages and the topic is VSA-Volume Spread analysis....i think it is collected by some one on traderji only...should i post the pdf here???????
Yes, Please do post it
 
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