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Sudoku,

Do you trade or just predict the bearishness with sensex levels? Do you do F&O, cash? Why don't you share your trading methods. Are you a day trader or position trader? The sensex levels you talk makes me think that you are positional trader, But your stops do not confirm my positional trading opinion of yours. I don't know about F&O (their practical), so could you not educate us, please?
 

sudoku1

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"At which level I should have shorted sensex in the last fortnight and why?". I have no answer from you for, "How this level is helpful to me in trading when downtrend changed to uptrend more than 1 month back." Do I need to sit idle till sensex closes above this particular level?

Oops No! The stop loss level was upgraded to 18950 later on 31st January when Sensex closed at 17648.
http://www.traderji.com/equities/19139-25jan-sensex-18362-bears-attack-stop-20.html#post151206
friend , as ur join date is 8th may , its obvious for the confusions.......
on ur first point of entering shorts.........
u could have entered anywher near 17500......it hit these levels twice last fortnight.

on ur second point of sitting idle......
shorting now u run a risk of loosing 1300 points.........if u r prepared.....u may enter......or wait for a bounce.....if it does not occur.....yes , sit idle , as u have missed the train.
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now coming on my trades.......the entry for shorts was 18362 ( the thread itself says the level) & the url below tells 2 average & short more....on 4th feb......the day hit the high of 18895......just kissing the stop of 18975.....
those who short even @ close of that day(18660).....the net average turns 2 around 18500.......
http://www.traderji.com/equities/19139-25jan-sensex-18362-bears-attack-stop-6.html

now the crash......14660 is the low of this trade......4000 pts.....what would one wait for?......even a 3000 pts makes good of moolah..........
now for the current stop of 17875.......even if it gets hit.....what 2 loose ....when the whole of india is still recovering from the jan mayhem itself.
a 4000 pts sensex turns nearly 1500 nifty points.......

friend , half knowledge always proves dangerous......thanks for going in from the jan thread....
 

sudoku1

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Sudoku,

Do you trade or just predict the bearishness with sensex levels? Do you do F&O, cash? Why don't you share your trading methods. Are you a day trader or position trader? The sensex levels you talk makes me think that you are positional trader, But your stops do not confirm my positional trading opinion of yours. I don't know about F&O (their practical), so could you not educate us, please?
friend ,
on ur first point....i m an opportunist & i predict both sides....currently the bearish views refuse 2 move out since 21st jan.
good quest......yes i trade & m a positional trader since 2003 .i track sensex but trade in nifty futs as sensex is quite illiquid.i m against day trading (not day tradrs:D)though lot of traders do day trades.
i do just 5-6 trades a year , yes with large qts & keep on rolling the positions every month........believe it or not...i have positions 365 days a year , whatever happens.
i will surely try 2 bring out the trading ideas when i get ample time as it is very complicated.....a pen , a paper & an HOUR is what i want everyday after close:)
 

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\______________________/ SAILS ABV 17875 CLOSE.........


VIX.....the recent volatility indicater shoots around 35 from around 25 levels showing that puts r being chased heavily......& mkts may have topped out for now.
 

sudoku1

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It's nothing but 50% fibonicci level of the entire fall applied on a line chart.Is that really so complex?
if wishes were horses......then my friend just trading 17875 on sheer fibo nos........i would have been around the world.
 

sudoku1

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Sudoku,

Why don't you share your trading methods. Are you a day trader or position trader?
frien , i intentionally avoided 2 share my methods as it could spark controversies......
but aftr so much of attention & from ur demand , i would certainly show it.

AIM:2 show how 17875 is derived
APPARATUS:sensex qtrly , monthly , weekly & daily close for a year.
RULES:everything is based on closing levels only.

PROCEDURE:v take the recent xample of 17875 , which i call fusion point.
first v start /\.....identify the daily tops from the peak of 21200......
here v see the tops made on 27/2 >17826
2/5>17600
16/5>17435
nxt ,v go for weekly close tops....
8/2>17465
22/2>17349
29/2>17579
16/5>17435
now for the monthly one's.....
feb>17579......
apr>17287
& finally the qtrly ones....
feb08> 17579
...........v have seen fusion in arts & music.....now u can see how fusion works in TA.....
from the abv data.....it is seen that sensex visited 17500 to 17700 range @ least 8 to 10 times in last 6 months......so v average all the abv close to form a fusion point.....if u recall my last point was 17775.....i edited it 2 17875 just when sensex was reaching it.why , it sometimes happens that near a recent point.....a few notch away....ther's a strong another point , so 2 save from the possible whipsaw...v ignore the recent one....now if 17600 is the point derived , why 17875......every stop should have a filter....some alaysts keep in % terms.....in my method.....a distant moving average is taken....in this case.....the 200dma & 50dma were available......v take the average of the abv 2 average & add the DIFF of the 2 ......it came 17775 earlier , but as told earlier , another fusion point was available abv , so v increase our point 2 17875 from the earlier 17775.
nowher in the world u must have seen chartists tracking qtrly charts....though i may b wrong.. , but in the url below , i had warned about the impending fall based on this method in bold....
http://www.traderji.com/equities/16313-rumour-post-halaal-street-59.html#post172411


sounded so easy friend , but u surely will sratch ur hair off in the end.....as it took nearly 5 yrs for me 2 arrive @ conclusion........
thats why i termed it as complicated.....
it can b used for any asset traded in the world.
just like any other method , this system also has a drawback.......
it is late in identifying the trend....but along with it u get less entry exists , less whipsaws.
even @ this juncture , i will never say that i m a 100% chartist....
the man who invented gun in front of ancient swords must have felt that this is the ultimate weapon for mankind that can kill without time......but then came the automatic pistols , ak 47 & even in future v may see robos in the battlefield......
in a nutshell , every trading day is a new battleground for any chartist 2 learn something @ keep on improving his methods......those who o not agree this r GODS.....i will worship them....:D
hope 2 answered ur demand rightly friend , though i must have confusedu a lot......but it is non con-FUSION...:D
 
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Re: Sensex TECHNICALS

frien , i intentionally avoided 2 share my methods as it could spark controversies......
but aftr so much of attention & from ur demand , i would certainly show it.

AIM:2 show how 17875 is derived
APPARATUS:sensex qtrly , monthly , weekly & daily close for a year.
RULES:everything is based on closing levels only.

PROCEDURE:v take the recent xample of 17875 , which i call fusion point.
first v start /\.....identify the daily tops from the peak of 21200......
here v see the tops made on 27/2 >17826
2/5>17600
16/5>17435
nxt ,v go for weekly close tops....
8/2>17465
22/2>17349
29/2>17579
16/5>17435
now for the monthly one's.....
feb>17579......
apr>17287
& finally the qtrly ones....
feb08> 17579
...........v have seen fusion in arts & music.....now u can see how fusion works in TA.....
from the abv data.....it is seen that sensex visited 17500 to 17700 range @ least 8 to 10 times in last 6 months......so v average all the abv close to form a fusion point.....if u recall my last point was 17775.....i edited it 2 17875 just when sensex was reaching it.why , it sometimes happens that near a recent point.....a few notch away....ther's a strong another point , so 2 save from the possible whipsaw...v ignore the recent one....now if 17600 is the point derived , why 17875......every stop should have a filter....some alaysts keep in % terms.....in my method.....a distant moving average is taken....in this case.....the 200dma & 50dma were available......v take the average of the abv 2 average & add the DIFF of the 2 ......it came 17775 earlier , but as told earlier , another fusion point was available abv , so v increase our point 2 17875 from the earlier 17775.
nowher in the world u must have seen chartists tracking qtrly charts....though i may b wrong.. , but in the url below , i had warned about the impending fall based on this method in bold....
http://www.traderji.com/equities/16313-rumour-post-halaal-street-59.html#post172411


sounded so easy friend , but u surely will sratch ur hair off in the end.....as it took nearly 5 yrs for me 2 arrive @ conclusion........
thats why i termed it as complicated.....
it can b used for any asset traded in the world.
just like any other method , this system also has a drawback.......
it is late in identifying the trend....but along with it u get less entry exists , less whipsaws.
even @ this juncture , i will never say that i m a 100% chartist....
the man who invented gun in front of ancient swords must have felt that this is the ultimate weapon for mankind that can kill without time......but then came the automatic pistols , ak 47 & even in future v may see robos in the battlefield......
in a nutshell , every trading day is a new battleground for any chartist 2 learn something @ keep on improving his methods......those who o not agree this r GODS.....i will worship them....:D
hope 2 answered ur demand rightly friend , though i must have confusedu a lot......but it is non con-FUSION...:D
It's a symphony! thanks sudoku a lot for your candidness. You've thrown so much at once that I'll need to understand it with charts :D and you are entitled to your own analysis, no one has the right to criticize your analysis or methods.
 

renu daga

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good suduko,,,

thats what u ahve done what ur thread mean!! keep it up and keep posting knowledgeable post like this,,,,

now can u post....ur exit position similarly when u said to exit !!! but even after u first warning tone nifty ran quite high.....and then finally we landed much down
i can say on teh baiss of my top / bottom indicator,.,,,which clearly indiactes we are in down trend,,with few whip saws,/ bounce also

secondly,....crude,,,,as per dat i ahve cruide oil...it shows in weekly topped out,,,at 5200..but still running high at 5500 aloss of 300 points,,,
what s ur idea!!
but in daily neg div got nullified,,,,and so its moving high!!!

we may see good fall in crude as per technicals!!!

ur views
renu
 
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frien , i intentionally avoided 2 share my methods as it could spark controversies......
but aftr so much of attention & from ur demand , i would certainly show it.

AIM:2 show how 17875 is derived
APPARATUS:sensex qtrly , monthly , weekly & daily close for a year.
RULES:everything is based on closing levels only.

PROCEDURE:v take the recent xample of 17875 , which i call fusion point.
first v start /\.....identify the daily tops from the peak of 21200......
here v see the tops made on 27/2 >17826
2/5>17600
16/5>17435
nxt ,v go for weekly close tops....
8/2>17465
22/2>17349
29/2>17579
16/5>17435
now for the monthly one's.....
feb>17579......
apr>17287
& finally the qtrly ones....
feb08> 17579
...........v have seen fusion in arts & music.....now u can see how fusion works in TA.....
from the abv data.....it is seen that sensex visited 17500 to 17700 range @ least 8 to 10 times in last 6 months......so v average all the abv close to form a fusion point.....if u recall my last point was 17775.....i edited it 2 17875 just when sensex was reaching it.why , it sometimes happens that near a recent point.....a few notch away....ther's a strong another point , so 2 save from the possible whipsaw...v ignore the recent one....now if 17600 is the point derived , why 17875......every stop should have a filter....some alaysts keep in % terms.....in my method.....a distant moving average is taken....in this case.....the 200dma & 50dma were available......v take the average of the abv 2 average & add the DIFF of the 2 ......it came 17775 earlier , but as told earlier , another fusion point was available abv , so v increase our point 2 17875 from the earlier 17775.
nowher in the world u must have seen chartists tracking qtrly charts....though i may b wrong.. , but in the url below , i had warned about the impending fall based on this method in bold....
http://www.traderji.com/equities/16313-rumour-post-halaal-street-59.html#post172411


sounded so easy friend , but u surely will sratch ur hair off in the end.....as it took nearly 5 yrs for me 2 arrive @ conclusion........
thats why i termed it as complicated.....
it can b used for any asset traded in the world.
just like any other method , this system also has a drawback.......
it is late in identifying the trend....but along with it u get less entry exists , less whipsaws.
even @ this juncture , i will never say that i m a 100% chartist....
the man who invented gun in front of ancient swords must have felt that this is the ultimate weapon for mankind that can kill without time......but then came the automatic pistols , ak 47 & even in future v may see robos in the battlefield......
in a nutshell , every trading day is a new battleground for any chartist 2 learn something @ keep on improving his methods......those who o not agree this r GODS.....i will worship them....:D
hope 2 answered ur demand rightly friend , though i must have confusedu a lot......but it is non con-FUSION...:D
tanx a lot sir
u opened up a new dimension of analysis .
endless way of learning in front of me
looking f/w for more inputs from ur part.
:)
 
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