A new Life, A new Career, A new Dream - I am a Trader

Gaur_Krishna

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Classic ST da, great explaination. You are a trading encyclopedia! :thumb:
Thanks JaganKris for a very good question as well. Only a good question like this can get a good answer:thumb:

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna

He means traders trade price patterns, indicators etc assuming that this is the real market......but this is a shadow and we keep trading shadow without understanding the cause or the reality which has caused supply- demand imbalance which is creating the shadow...so he says understand the reality or the cause which is causing the market move and not just concentrate on shadows or price patterns, indicator OB/OS etc.....so if the reality is strong enough to create supply / demand imbalance, then the shadow trading meaning if the fundamentals of the market has changed to bullish, trading on shadows like expecting to fill the gap, expecting correction , expecting exhaustion in overbought area etc wont work and market will keep going up and trading on shadow will infact mislead the traders....

So according to Lance Beggs, we must understand what is the cause ( reality) and then trade the shadows( Price patterns etc ) togather with reality and not the shadow in isolation.

Smart_trade
 

Gaur_Krishna

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@Jagankris, its a good observation. News are important. What I want to know is that is there any website or blog or newspaper which lists upcoming events in advance? I am aware of moneycontrol, but the problem there is you visit them and they load you with their views and statestics etc, so your opinion is often get biased.

So want a passive source, which lists important events(from stock market perspective). Any newspaper any any specific day lists this?

Eg. Who reported @Gas pricing discussions in advance?

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna


I don't know how to predict gaps.
May be we can home work and see what events triggered the gaps.
But Gaps occurs on news days.
So we have to be careful about the news (Importance of news).
Some times news is discounted :rofl: if it is not in the favour of smart money,
Usually the counter trend traders will get slaughtered.
I.e The day before gaps markets will move against the trend.
Gaps occur in the direction of Trend.
 

Gaur_Krishna

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@403.forbidden : Great post :thumb: :clapping: :thumb: :clapping:

Agree with your every sentence, word & alphbet. Simply great post.

About threads, ST da's threads are awesome. I was totally failing in trading but saved by his threads and posts. Now only partially failing. Will implement your practise of WRITTING EVERY TRADE soon, from this month.

happy to know you too tread that "MARUTI MODEL" ;)

Simply :) and all the best to Taiki and one & all.

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna

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Dear Taiki,

:clapping: I like your strong positive approach.

This post is for all the beginners. - from my two years full time trading experience. Nothing new,but could not resist posting, to kill the negative views about trading.

(Sorry Taiki,for posting my experience in your thread.If you feel it is like annoying then the mods can delete this post)

I'll be completing two years of my full time trading career on 30th of this month. I was into IT for 8+ yrs,worked abroad. I spent one year to decide " trading " as my new career. My whole family was against my decision and asked me to leave India. One Sunday afternoon, I met Mr.Smart_trade in TJ chat. He was explaining " trends ". Greek and Latin to me. Met some friends in person through another forum. They have trading experience and asked me to keep some safe funds for 2-3 years. I was so scared. Started Mr.Smart_trade's 'Swift' (NSE cash) in June 2011. Traded cash till October 2011. Wrote down everything in handwritten(red,green,mistakes etc and (still I write down) this habit,I developed from one of the members in TJ)Did all the mistakes and lost money,but got a feeling like something I have understood.Every mistake taught a great lesson. Started BNF in October 2011. WOW !!! That monster showed me the real face of (futures) trading :D, lost money due to lack of discipline,lack of patience and emotions clouded,due to fear. Slowly fixed every mistake and became consistent. I started NSE stock futures. I lost Rs.50,000/ in 3 days. Took a 3 days break and studied my mistakes. Then I started again. It is very comfortable now. I don't trade options and have never traded Nifty,but BNF futures. Now I trade only NSE stock futures. I took my first swing/positional trade and closed on 27th May,2013 and made some real good money. Still I make at least one big mistake once in a week and silly,stupid mistakes everyday.

Each and everything, techniques, real time psychology etc, I have learnt from Mr.Smart_trade's posts,charts etc.

Mr.Smart_trade's two threads " Thoughts about Day/Swing trading -1 and 2" are more than enough,for a beginner. Slowly,every trader starts tweaking ,addons, plugins etc and design their own methods.

I discussed a lot with my younger brother and I have not spent so much time with anybody to discuss about trading,except him. A very big thanks to him

Mr.Smart_trade said,

a) Trading is simple,but the trader is complicated
b) Trading is simple,but not easy. It is a battle of emotions

AW10 (I think - AW10) said,

Making money from the market is easy, but keeping it is very hard

Taiki,we both got the same mindset. You got " 5 Taiki " inside your head :lol: and I got one. That is the real enemy. I could not resist and hence this post. Once we have decided to trade our comfortable method only and if we start slowly doing that in real time, then the evil twin will be dying slowly. So many friends posted their best wishes to you. So many suggestions. It is very great indeed. jagankris and Dan have posted a bunch of good thoughts. I have come across through those and I know every trader has to, at the beginning. Handling those confusions is the real toughest part.,but trust me, it is easy.

Yes, trading is the best rewarding profession. Yes, we can make money from the market. It is very much possible. Please, never give up. Our methods(understanding) play only 10% and rest is the way handling our own evil twin in real time. It is very hard to believe our understanding in the real time,because of our emotions.

When our understanding gives few loss trades,we curse our understanding and jump to another. Instead of that, if we put efforts to understand why it failed and analyzed those few loss trades,then that is the key to improve our trading. And of course,99% of the times,those red trades,because of our evil twin. Making money from day one, it is impossible. We'll make mistakes. If we don't understand those mistakes and if we don't try to fix, then better stop trading.

My best wishes to you,to become a very successful trader, to all the friends in TJ & to all the beginners :)

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indianbank

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Hai friend... i am happy seeing u choosing trading as career...

Only one thing i want to tell...

Buy stocks which are reaching new highs
sell stocks which are in new lows..

never buy on dips and never sell on highs

Best wishes...
 

Taiki

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Hai friend... i am happy seeing u choosing trading as career...

Only one thing i want to tell...

Buy stocks which are reaching new highs
sell stocks which are in new lows..

never buy on dips and never sell on highs

Best wishes...
Thank you friend. But no stocks for the time being. Only Nifty :)
 

jagankris

Well-Known Member
Gaur Krish - Jagan Kris - Krishna is always in both our name :).

Honestly I haven't been focusing on the News events much so for.
I have added to my rules to watch for the forth coming news events.

Soft Trader - recommended investing.com.

Mates,
Please add to the list.


@Jagankris, its a good observation. News are important. What I want to know is that is there any website or blog or newspaper which lists upcoming events in advance? I am aware of moneycontrol, but the problem there is you visit them and they load you with their views and statestics etc, so your opinion is often get biased.

So want a passive source, which lists important events(from stock market perspective). Any newspaper any any specific day lists this?

Eg. Who reported @Gas pricing discussions in advance?

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna
 

DanPickUp

Well-Known Member
ex Goldman Sachs Trader Tells Truth about Trading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h3lByx59ns

There are 6 Parts to listen to. This guy was also involved in the Million Trader documentation in BBC. He now talks in front of students about what he did and the students are allowed to ask questions about it. There is/are may question/s you hear you are interested in it and specially the answer given to it. Good stuff as he also speaks the true about how the banks decide who is going to trade with there money. Titles are not the final criteria. :)

Take care / DanPickUp