Absolute Beginner Guide.

[VJAY]

Hello I new to this forum Can any one give me some guidelines on to trade in Forex. Thanks

here the link.hope it's help you

http://www.traderji.com/equities/28201-trading-bars-35.html

 

[SREENAN]

I seek your advice TFL and other Seniors

last year attended a Seminar and was Sold into buying ADVANCED GET------Why Buy aMaruti when you can Buy a BENZ...So Bought ADVANCED GET and RT...Didnt do much trading though.....mainly because of Lack of knowledge
Now going thru Traderji and the supportive community I plan to start trading
.....
First phase --I plan to learn the various trading strategies
Learn to draw TREND LINES,Study charts Analyse ,Back Test etc

THE problem is I have this Software...Advanced Get from Esignal..but no real time data...which has expired and costs around 65000 for Nse if i want to renew

Now to learn the charts ,Back test etc What is the best Way and cheapest way Out....
Advanced get has lot of tools but it is useless now unless i subscribe for real time data....please help out...what is the way out

SREENAN

 

[TFL]

I seek your advice TFL and other Seniors

last year attended a Seminar and was Sold into buying ADVANCED GET------Why Buy aMaruti when you can Buy a BENZ...So Bought ADVANCED GET and RT...Didnt do much trading though.....mainly because of Lack of knowledge
Now going thru Traderji and the supportive community I plan to start trading
.....
First phase --I plan to learn the various trading strategies
Learn to draw TREND LINES,Study charts Analyse ,Back Test etc

THE problem is I have this Software...Advanced Get from Esignal..but no real time data...which has expired and costs around 65000 for Nse if i want to renew

Now to learn the charts ,Back test etc What is the best Way and cheapest way Out....
Advanced get has lot of tools but it is useless now unless i subscribe for real time data....please help out...what is the way out

SREENAN

SREENAN,

You can subscribe to eSignal RT data for NSE by paying per month charges.
Contact eSignal from their website for the same.

 

[Nandagopal53]

Thanks a lot Hari....but the quote I received from their Indian agents Viratech (from whom I originally purchased Advanced Get )do not say anything about monthly subscription...the quote for NSE Rt feeds is Around 65,000 plus 13800 for Xchange fees....that is quite a lot to pay .....but is there is no other alteranative?
Would it be better to give up Advanced Get for the moment and go in for another Software and Real time provider whose services are cheaper....I do not know if it is possible and the right thing to do ....please advice
My requirements now are learning and back testing for a month or so and then do DAY TRADING....and to get started
Thank you once again Hari
SREENAN

 

[VJAY]

in the current nifty , what are the scrips weightages and which top most 5 scrips lead the nifty.

Dear niftywaves,
Hope this helps you.

nb.Source..TJ

 

[TFL]

Contact eSignal directly from their website rather than Viratech. I am using such an RT monthly pack.

Or if you want to drop Advance get, try Amibroker (http://amibroker.com) + eSignals ($108 per month, http://eSignal.com).

Thanks a lot Hari....but the quote I received from their Indian agents Viratech (from whom I originally purchased Advanced Get )do not say anything about monthly subscription...the quote for NSE Rt feeds is Around 65,000 plus 13800 for Xchange fees....that is quite a lot to pay .....but is there is no other alteranative?
Would it be better to give up Advanced Get for the moment and go in for another Software and Real time provider whose services are cheaper....I do not know if it is possible and the right thing to do ....please advice
My requirements now are learning and back testing for a month or so and then do DAY TRADING....and to get started
Thank you once again Hari
SREENAN

 

[SREENAN]

Thank you once again ,Hari
SREENAN

 

[superman]

Hi

Just finished reading all the posts in this thread ..
The concepts are beautifully explained by many members here

So i am now into opening of demat as well as trading account .. i am from a small city .. so many firms dont have office here except geojit..

They have not made their brokerage charges public but said the charges are 775 rs for opening ..But for promo they are telling thats its free until 31 dec 2009 .... are there any hidden charges behind this ..?
http://gcc.geojit.net/html/logo.html
Is it wise decision to go for them ..
Only they have office in Hassan,Karnataka ... and many others like ICICI,HDFC,SBI Demat facility is not available here ...

 

[TFL]

Hi

Just finished reading all the posts in this thread ..
The concepts are beautifully explained by many members here

So i am now into opening of demat as well as trading account .. i am from a small city .. so many firms dont have office here except geojit..

They have not made their brokerage charges public but said the charges are 775 rs for opening ..But for promo they are telling thats its free until 31 dec 2009 .... are there any hidden charges behind this ..?
http://gcc.geojit.net/html/logo.html
Is it wise decision to go for them ..
Only they have office in Hassan,Karnataka ... and many others like ICICI,HDFC,SBI Demat facility is not available here ...

Go to the below link and click on fees link in the left pane, there you can see the brokerages and other charges. They also have a standalone software package along with web-based terminal. Its not 'so' bad. Also Geojit is much better amount your list, ICICI,DHFC,SBI.

http://www.geojitbnpparibas.com/Equity/EquityInner.aspx?id=168

 

[valinciamarget]

Re: General Guide to Day Trading

Here I will guide you about the setups needed fort day trading.

First off all you need to arrange all the inventories before starting day trading. I will describe below what you need to do first. All are inconsideration that you want to be a dedicated online trader and need to have a fool proof trading system. This setup will keep you in trading as far as you want.

1. Open a Bank Account, Demat Account & Online Trading Account. You can contact a broker firm to get these accounts opened.
Brokerage firms: Sharekhan, Geojit, Religare, Reliance Money, HDFC, ICICIDirect, etc.

Funds from your bank will be transferred to the trading account. Then shares can be brought using that money. The shares you brought will be held on your demat account.
While buying a share: Bank account -> (cash) Trading Account -> (shares) Demat Account
While selling a share: Demat Account (shares) -> Trading Account (cash) -> Bank Account

The above transactions attracts certain commissions, known as brokerages. Since, above the value of shares you will be charged some small amount of money as brokerages. Also you will be charged some taxes for these transactions and for the gain.

Brokerage: For the whole buy and sell value,
STT(Security Transaction Tax): Calculated on the Weighted Average Price of the client for a particular days turnover,
Stamp Duty,
Service Tax,
etc.
This doesn't include income tax. You need to pay a particular % of income tax for all your Gains only, Also you can deduct your losses from the Gains for the calculation of income tax.

I will post a real life example of a transaction.

Share: UNITECH LTD
No of Shares brought: 200
Buy Price: 147.85
Total Amount: Rs: 29570
Brokerage: Rs: 15
Service Tax: Rs:1.86
NET COST OF BUY: Rs: 29586.86

Now you have a Trading Account ready to buy and sell shares.
For day traders the shares are brought and sold in the same day itself.
So these shares will not actually go to your demat account.

Now we can discuss about other client setups.
Consider you are a dedicated trader who trades from your home or office, you need to have the below hardwares and softwares.

1. Sufficient Trading Capital (Money).
3. A good Computer System.
4. A Power Back Up System.
5. A good Trading Terminal Software.
6. A very good Internet Connection.
7. A calm environment where other will not disturb you.

Sufficient Trading Capital
You should have sufficient fund for trading. Broker firms allow you to trade more than the money you have for non-delivery trading(day trading) or for 6 days trading with some brokers like Sharekhan. This is known as leverage, its good you can buy more for less money but, say for example if you have Rs:1000 the broker firm may allow you to trade for 4000 and for even 10000 with some brokers. But high leveraged trading is extremely dangerous and it will kill your trading capital. So try to be less leverage as possible.

See the danger of leveraged trading by an example,
One have taken the leverage of 10 times his trading capital of 1000 and brought shares worth 10000.
Brought ABC 100 share for Rs:100
After 15 minutes the share price is not moving up but going down. So he decided to sell the shares at the current price to limit the losses.
He sold at: Rs:90, means he lost Rs:10 per share.
So, Total loss = 10*100 = 1000. Now Rs: 1000 will be deducted from his trading account. Now his trading capital is 0, means he cannot trade since there is no money left.

His Capital: 1000
Brought in leverage: 10000
Lost 1000
Now his Capital: 0
Like wise if you have gained and booked profit at 110 you will gain 1000. Means you have made 1000 from 1000 from a single trade. But a single loss will kill a greater percentage of your capital and you will get pain to even recover from the loss.

I know I have detailed roughly about leverage. But consider, many traders left trading just because they traded with highly leveraged money. So my advice is to not leverage or leverage very less but never leverage more than 4 times(4000 from 1000). As a thumb rule don't loose more than 1% to 2% of your money in any single trade and not more than 10% at any time.

Computer System
These days all computers are highly powered so there is no need to discuss much but, for a dedicated online trader I recommend the following computer setups.
Processor: Dual Core min. 3.2 Ghz(1.6*2)
RAM: 1 GB or more if you are using Windows XP or higher versions.
Monitor: Preferably 2 monitors. 15inch minimum. One for Charts/Graphs and the other for orders and Index tracking.
Browsers: Internet Explorer + Opera or FireFox

Power Back Up System
You must have a power back up system over your conventional 20 minute UPS. Buy a UPS which gives atleast 1 hour back up or buy some other kind of backup system. Even if the power fails you must be able to trade for the next 1 hour atleast even if you have no power cuts in your area.

Trading Terminal Software
As a day trader you should have a trading terminal rather than brokers webpage trading. For this you can signup for brokers providing software terminals to trade. Below are some brokers who provides softwares.

Sharekhan: Provides Software(with technical analysis tools).
ICICIDirect: Donot provides software (So, not suitable for day traders).
Religare: Provides Software.

[Optional]
If you can buy technical analysis softwares (like MetaStock, Amibroker, etc) will be a good idea. Also you need to buy good real time data feeds inorder to see charts and prices in MetaStock, Amibroker,etc. Softwares provided by brokers doesn't need additional data feeds. The advantage of these Technical Analysis softwares over broker's trading terminal softwares are the higher ability to do technical analysis.

Internet Connection
A proper internet connection is a must for every trader. A 250Kbps internet connection will smooth out your trading. Also take a backup connection from a different company inorder to continue trading when the other connection fails of any reason.
Backup Connection is not expensive if you take a usb data card wireless connection or mobile edge internet connection. All these are available for as low as 400 per month or even less. You may also activate the backup connection from your mobile service provider and can use your mobile as modem to access internet through GPRS or EDGE. All mobile service providers have this facility for less than 250 per month. This will save you from a sudden internet blackout.


I wrote these all in a jiffy manner, so please correct if I have missed something or did anything wrong. Will update and add more advanced topics regarding day trading soon. But I need your feedback, questions, complaints, etc to keep me in track.

Thank you,
TFL.

i wanna buy idea shares ...as on dec 4 price ..is it worthy???????