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an abc for anyone who like to be a trader

dear readers,

i have wandered throughout this forum and found no absolute beginner guide anywhere.
Some of my friends in this forum requested for such information and so i planned to start an absolute beginner guide here.
I am writing in the context of an absolute beginner who only knows "there is stock market", "there is day trading".

Let me start this thread from today, i request to post your complaints, questions, suggestions, etc continuously ton encourage me..

I am not an advanced trader so you can also correct me of my mistakes.
Sorry for not posting for a long time will come back soon...busy with some other non-basic topics in traderji.

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TFL

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Re: General Guide to Day Trading

i wanna buy idea shares ...as on dec 4 price ..is it worthy???????
Personally, I recently brought it to my intermediate holding portfolio. I think now its started rallying. Be careful not to get into the stock at the wrong time. Study and Decide Yourselves.
 
Re: General Guide to Day Trading

Here I will guide you about the setups needed fort day trading.

First off all you need to arrange all the inventories before starting day trading. I will describe below what you need to do first. All are inconsideration that you want to be a dedicated online trader and need to have a fool proof trading system. This setup will keep you in trading as far as you want.

1. Open a Bank Account, Demat Account & Online Trading Account. You can contact a broker firm to get these accounts opened.
Brokerage firms: Sharekhan, Geojit, Religare, Reliance Money, HDFC, ICICIDirect, etc.

Funds from your bank will be transferred to the trading account. Then shares can be brought using that money. The shares you brought will be held on your demat account.
While buying a share: Bank account -> (cash) Trading Account -> (shares) Demat Account
While selling a share: Demat Account (shares) -> Trading Account (cash) -> Bank Account

The above transactions attracts certain commissions, known as brokerages. Since, above the value of shares you will be charged some small amount of money as brokerages. Also you will be charged some taxes for these transactions and for the gain.

Brokerage: For the whole buy and sell value,
STT(Security Transaction Tax): Calculated on the Weighted Average Price of the client for a particular days turnover,
Stamp Duty,
Service Tax,
etc.
This doesn't include income tax. You need to pay a particular % of income tax for all your Gains only, Also you can deduct your losses from the Gains for the calculation of income tax.

I will post a real life example of a transaction.

Share: UNITECH LTD
No of Shares brought: 200
Buy Price: 147.85
Total Amount: Rs: 29570
Brokerage: Rs: 15
Service Tax: Rs:1.86
NET COST OF BUY: Rs: 29586.86


Now you have a Trading Account ready to buy and sell shares.
For day traders the shares are brought and sold in the same day itself.
So these shares will not actually go to your demat account.

Now we can discuss about other client setups.
Consider you are a dedicated trader who trades from your home or office, you need to have the below hardwares and softwares.

1. Sufficient Trading Capital (Money).
3. A good Computer System.
4. A Power Back Up System.
5. A good Trading Terminal Software.
6. A very good Internet Connection.
7. A calm environment where other will not disturb you.


Sufficient Trading Capital
You should have sufficient fund for trading. Broker firms allow you to trade more than the money you have for non-delivery trading(day trading) or for 6 days trading with some brokers like Sharekhan. This is known as leverage, its good you can buy more for less money but, say for example if you have Rs:1000 the broker firm may allow you to trade for 4000 and for even 10000 with some brokers. But high leveraged trading is extremely dangerous and it will kill your trading capital. So try to be less leverage as possible.

See the danger of leveraged trading by an example,
One have taken the leverage of 10 times his trading capital of 1000 and brought shares worth 10000.
Brought ABC 100 share for Rs:100
After 15 minutes the share price is not moving up but going down. So he decided to sell the shares at the current price to limit the losses.
He sold at: Rs:90, means he lost Rs:10 per share.
So, Total loss = 10*100 = 1000. Now Rs: 1000 will be deducted from his trading account. Now his trading capital is 0, means he cannot trade since there is no money left.

His Capital: 1000
Brought in leverage: 10000
Lost 1000
Now his Capital: 0

Like wise if you have gained and booked profit at 110 you will gain 1000. Means you have made 1000 from 1000 from a single trade. But a single loss will kill a greater percentage of your capital and you will get pain to even recover from the loss.

I know I have detailed roughly about leverage. But consider, many traders left trading just because they traded with highly leveraged money. So my advice is to not leverage or leverage very less but never leverage more than 4 times(4000 from 1000). As a thumb rule don't loose more than 1% to 2% of your money in any single trade and not more than 10% at any time.

Computer System
These days all computers are highly powered so there is no need to discuss much but, for a dedicated online trader I recommend the following computer setups.
Processor: Dual Core min. 3.2 Ghz(1.6*2)
RAM: 1 GB or more if you are using Windows XP or higher versions.
Monitor: Preferably 2 monitors. 15inch minimum. One for Charts/Graphs and the other for orders and Index tracking.
Browsers: Internet Explorer + Opera or FireFox

Power Back Up System
You must have a power back up system over your conventional 20 minute UPS. Buy a UPS which gives atleast 1 hour back up or buy some other kind of backup system. Even if the power fails you must be able to trade for the next 1 hour atleast even if you have no power cuts in your area.

Trading Terminal Software
As a day trader you should have a trading terminal rather than brokers webpage trading. For this you can signup for brokers providing software terminals to trade. Below are some brokers who provides softwares.

Sharekhan: Provides Software(with technical analysis tools).
ICICIDirect: Donot provides software (So, not suitable for day traders).
Religare: Provides Software.

[Optional]
If you can buy technical analysis softwares (like MetaStock, Amibroker, etc) will be a good idea. Also you need to buy good real time data feeds inorder to see charts and prices in MetaStock, Amibroker,etc. Softwares provided by brokers doesn't need additional data feeds. The advantage of these Technical Analysis softwares over broker's trading terminal softwares are the higher ability to do technical analysis.

Internet Connection
A proper internet connection is a must for every trader. A 250Kbps internet connection will smooth out your trading. Also take a backup connection from a different company inorder to continue trading when the other connection fails of any reason.
Backup Connection is not expensive if you take a usb data card wireless connection or mobile edge internet connection. All these are available for as low as 400 per month or even less. You may also activate the backup connection from your mobile service provider and can use your mobile as modem to access internet through GPRS or EDGE. All mobile service providers have this facility for less than 250 per month. This will save you from a sudden internet blackout.


I wrote these all in a jiffy manner, so please correct if I have missed something or did anything wrong. Will update and add more advanced topics regarding day trading soon. But I need your feedback, questions, complaints, etc to keep me in track.

Thank you,
TFL.

this all information was really "needed" :)information for a newbie like me!!
Thanks for all your efforts in this thread .:thanx:
 
Please help to choose a good brokerage firm

Dear All Stock GURUS,

I am a newbie and cant decide which brokerage firm (savings A/c+ Demat A/c+online trading A/c) to go for.One of my uncle is in this for quite long and using AXIS BANK.He suggested me the same.

Can you please tell me whether AXIS BANK is good or not for daytrade ?
How is its services and softwares(if any)?
Does it provide consultation to trade in nice way to get a better profit?
(as I am a newbie)

Any better brokerage firms is there with competitive or less brokerage charges and taxes and also good services for trading in stock market?

PLEASE HELP GUYS.I want to start ASAP,may be by next monday or tuesday.
 

rkkarnani

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The one thing many beginning traders don’t seem to accept is that losing is part of the process. You will lose. The goal is not only to win more than you lose, but to make a profit, which means keeping your losses to a minimum. You can’t “hold on” hoping that your trade will either come back to even or make a profit. You have to let every trade go either to loss or profit.

Many traders can’t (or don’t) take the small losses. They often stick with a loser until it really hurts, then take the loss. This is an undisciplined approach… a trader needs to develop and stick with a system.

Two important keys help you achieve your goal (profit). Devise a strategy (system) that defines your stops, which, in turn, defines your losses. The second is to develop a disciplined approach that “forces” you to honor your stops and take your small losses.

Keep in mind, your strategy should focus on the protection and preservation of you capital. This means that the losses you incur should have a minimal impact on your trading stash. One way to ensure this is to define a percentage of your capital dedicated to each trade. Keep that percentage reasonable, meaning you want to maximize profit per trade, but you don’t want to risk too much on one trade. As well, keep your stops reasonable. Don’t set them too tight so you are always getting stopped out. Open them up to the maximum level defined in your strategy.

This error goes hand in hand with this one:—don’t over trade. Set up your daily (if that is how you want to trade) strategy and stick to it. Don’t try to make up for losses by making one more quick trade. If you fall into this pattern, you will lose more than you want.

Trade in the day; invest in your life …
 

TFL

Well-Known Member
Re: Please help to choose a good brokerage firm

Dear All Stock GURUS,

I am a newbie and cant decide which brokerage firm (savings A/c+ Demat A/c+online trading A/c) to go for.One of my uncle is in this for quite long and using AXIS BANK.He suggested me the same.

Can you please tell me whether AXIS BANK is good or not for daytrade ?
How is its services and softwares(if any)?
Does it provide consultation to trade in nice way to get a better profit?
(as I am a newbie)

Any better brokerage firms is there with competitive or less brokerage charges and taxes and also good services for trading in stock market?

PLEASE HELP GUYS.I want to start ASAP,may be by next monday or tuesday.
AXIS Bank is not a retail broker firm and they are not providing demat or trading account. They claims in various advertisements and so in a manner like they have but, its actually Geojit's also, you may directly go to Geojit and open an account with any bank. I think their published brokerage is lowest among the 'many' competitors but you can bargain with many providers and select one.

More over these little differences in brokerage will be reflected hard in once account only when he trades in higher quantity. If you are a beginner, concentrate in your trading strategy and making consistency in results should be your primary goal rest will follow.

Best Wishes,
TFL.
 
Re: Please help to choose a good brokerage firm

AXIS Bank is not a retail broker firm and they are not providing demat or trading account. They claims in various advertisements and so in a manner like they have but, its actually Geojit's also, you may directly go to Geojit and open an account with any bank. I think their published brokerage is lowest among the 'many' competitors but you can bargain with many providers and select one.

More over these little differences in brokerage will be reflected hard in once account only when he trades in higher quantity. If you are a beginner, concentrate in your trading strategy and making consistency in results should be your primary goal rest will follow.

Best Wishes,
TFL.
Thanks alot TFL
 
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