Any body know about R Trade?

A good review to start with. However I have some queries that I have had after reading various threads:

1. Do reliancemoney allow you to carry forward delivery positions for the day or is it 100% delivery against cash margin. (icici model)
2. Do they give exposure against the shares that you hold in the demat like IB, Kotak, Moti etc. Very useful for a trader like me.
3. All statutory charges reliancemoney charges over and above the brokerages.They have quoted the foll charges:

Transaction charge 0.0035%
IPF charges 0.00001%
Stamp Duty 0.002%
sebi charges 0.01%
Service Tax 12.2% of brokerages
STT 0.025%
Total comes to slightly more than 0.0405% approx

All my present brokers i.e IB, Moti and Kotak charge me only STT and Service Tax.

Do correct me in case I am wrong, but somehow I have a feeling that they have played around with the charges a lot......however they are still 50% cheaper than the otehr sin the market.

4. HAs someone actually used their site till date. Can the site take the load which ahs been the bane of even the biggest names in the broking business.
 
A good review to start with. However I have some queries that I have had after reading various threads:

1. Do reliancemoney allow you to carry forward delivery positions for the day or is it 100% delivery against cash margin. (icici model)
2. Do they give exposure against the shares that you hold in the demat like IB, Kotak, Moti etc. Very useful for a trader like me.
3. All statutory charges reliancemoney charges over and above the brokerages.They have quoted the foll charges:

Transaction charge 0.0035%
IPF charges 0.00001%
Stamp Duty 0.002%
sebi charges 0.01%
Service Tax 12.2% of brokerages
STT 0.025%
Total comes to slightly more than 0.0405% approx

All my present brokers i.e IB, Moti and Kotak charge me only STT and Service Tax.

Do correct me in case I am wrong, but somehow I have a feeling that they have played around with the charges a lot......however they are still 50% cheaper than the otehr sin the market.

4. HAs someone actually used their site till date. Can the site take the load which ahs been the bane of even the biggest names in the broking business.
Hi system trader,
Thank you for the comments about the review. About the questions you raised better contact the help line or your nearest franchise of Reliance money. Certainly they wil guide you. My franchise who is assigned to me called me today and told that all my queries are being attended. And he told me Instatrade will also be available to me for trading from next week. The ledger will also be available shortrly as and when the software is upgraded.
Regarding the doubt about taking the load I think they will have established best servers available today expecting huge response. This I assume because of their track records to run new projects.
gvnarendra
 
Hi All,
I am herewith writing my first experience with reliance money.

The web page trade window is called Easytrade and Instatrade. Instatrade is given to the franchises and individual trader is given easytrade window. Shortly they are giving Instatrade facility to individual users also when they complete other software for franchises. So now you can trade only in easytrade window.
If you are a ICICIdirect trade customer then you need not look further where the buttons are. Because you will find the same type of interface. It is very fast in executing our orders for the time being. But as a customer used to exe based software like PIB or Tradeanyware you might find it to difficult to enter all those parameters manuallly. When they give Instatrade facility then you may find it easier. There are some software glitches that I have noted while executing options transaction and complained to them, which they are rectifying within a day or two they have promised. The PMs are very helpfull in all kind of queries. I hope in due course also they will be like that.
Regarding the brokerage it is amazing how they survive with such low brokerage! Because we are used to pay high brokerage, but that is their competitive edge by which they can create a great number of customer base within a short period of time after official launching.
Regarding tranfering the money from to HDFC bank to my trading account, it was hassel free. I tried with a small amount first, even though it was sunday the money got transfered immediately. I was able to see the balance in my ledger balance window.
I found one drawback in it that no ledger was there. only Tradebook and contract note is available which I have complained to them and they promised to look into it. When you open an account with Reliancemoney you will be assigned with a nearest franchise. You can give new applications or you can query your doubts or you can give complain through them or you can call customercare number.
Regarding the charges they charge for software utilisation
You can trade upto Rs 1 crore with Rs 500 card. You can trade roughly 25 lots of futures or options. Rs 500 wll have to be exhausted within 2 months. Like that they have 2 more higher packages which will save more money in your pocket.
Regarding taxation matters. They charge only 1 paisa brokerage for every transaction irrespective of traded quantity. So naturally there will not be any taxes on your brokerage. I was charged 0.017001% of securities transaction tax. Even this in Indiabulls they charge more on comparing. Another charge is trnover charge which comes to about Rs 2 to 3 per lot of options. and stamp duty also very less comparing to Indiabulls, it is paisas. Comparing with the brokerage of .03% in Indiabulls, I was getting around Rs 425 in their contract note for 1 lot of Nifty futures where as Reliance charges are around Rs 70 plus the software utilisation charges(whatever they name for this charges I call it software uitilisation charge), comes to around Rs 20 per lot of futures. Totally Rs 90 per lot a huge saving for a day trader of around 375% on brokerage .
For euqity traders there is a porfolio management software also which keeps track of all your trades which is very convenient.
They will also give you one email id created in reliance money itself and they will post the contract notes there. So they will not send seperate contract note over post. YOu can contact customer care for any assistance through this mail facility.
They have introduced security key for the first time in Inida for trading community. They will give a key, If you press the button it will generate a number conversing with their server over GPRS. You have to fill that no in your login window along with your password. So additional security for the traders feels safer.
Lastly it may not be a great experience of their easy trade environment(may improve on getting instatrade or exe based facility) but your pocket is enriched with bounty of savings in brokerge charges
gvnarendra
Hi Gvnarandra
First of all i want to thank you for sharing your experience with us.Reguarding 1 lot of nifty futures ,can you give me the breakup of Rs 70.And reguarding Rs 20 which you call software utilisation charge ,can you explain me in detail.

The other things which i want to know are as follows:
(a) How many scripts can you see on the screen.

(b) Does the quotes are updated automatically on realtime basis or you have to refresh it by clicking the "refresh" button.

(c) Does intraday realtime charts are provided.

Please give me a reply.
 
Hi Gvnarandra
First of all i want to thank you for sharing your experience with us.Reguarding 1 lot of nifty futures ,can you give me the breakup of Rs 70.And reguarding Rs 20 which you call software utilisation charge ,can you explain me in detail.

The other things which i want to know are as follows:
(a) How many scripts can you see on the screen.

(b) Does the quotes are updated automatically on realtime basis or you have to refresh it by clicking the "refresh" button.

(c) Does intraday realtime charts are provided.

Please give me a reply.
Thank you unicorn
The breakup for Rs 70/ is like this. This is for Nifty options that I have traded.
1.Securities Transaction Tax= Rs 68.24
2.Turn over charges = Rs 1.25
3. Stamp duty = Rs 0.10
Totally Rs 69.59

Rs 20 is for soft ware utilisation charges. I have given Rs 500 to trade Rs 1 crore worth trade. For the existing value of nifty it comes to around Rs 20 per lot if you trade. It keeps on changing as the Nifty value changes.

As of now in easy trade it is not possible to put scipts in the window to monitor the changing prices. It is possible only in Insta trade. The scripts will get refreshed automatically as it runs through Java. The real time chart wiindow is not enabled yet. They have given a link which is yet to be enabled
gvnarendra
 
Hi Gvnarendra
Thank you for your reply.In your experience you are telling that the order execution is "very fast" in Easy Trade,but at the same time you also noticed that there are some "glitches" while executing options transactions.
I am little confused . can you please explain this?
 
Hi Gvnarendra
Thank you for your reply.In your experience you are telling that the order execution is "very fast" in Easy Trade,but at the same time you also noticed that there are some "glitches" while executing options transactions.
I am little confused . can you please explain this?
If I have a long position in a particular put or call option and I want to sell it what happens is, you can not put an order for selling through the main window. Instead you have to go to the open position window and square off from there which will get executed. In my experience it should be able to sell from both the windows. I think the engineers over there have made the software for equity traders since most of the traders trade in equity. One by one they are rectifying the problems. Though I have heard in equity and future trades there are no problems. Only in options trade window it is occuring and they have promised me it will be rectified within next week. By next week I will be getting Instatrade so there will be no problem for me.
gvnarendra
 
thanks gvnarendra
few questions
1.is the Rs 70 you detailed out subtracted ffrom the card of Rs500/2500
they provide or is it seperately dedected from the bank account
2.after you sell shares is the money directly credited to your hdfc account(like icici) or do you have to do the transfer
3.the security key you said , generates a number by communicating via gprs
with their servers. In such a case are you restricted to a city just like a mobile phone..because the networks change as you change cities or what happens if you are out of india.
 
thanks gvnarendra
3.the security key you said , generates a number by communicating via gprs
with their servers. In such a case are you restricted to a city just like a mobile phone..because the networks change as you change cities or what happens if you are out of india.
The security key has a inbuilt number generator which is synchronised with a real time clock. The server knows what number will be generated at a specified time. The number generated by the security code changes every 30 sec

This means it doesnt communicate with the server via gprs or any other means

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