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cloudTrader

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Markets have changed. IMHO Nifty is not going to trend like earlier in future. Reason is the introduction of XX50 option strikes since last September. Big boys and institutions will have massive option exposures and they will try to defend these areas with their might.

Earlier with xx00 strikes they allowed the retail guys to play around within 100 points and provide liquidity. Now the play ground has shrunk to 50 odd points within which we have to play around. Volatility is cyclical and may be we are at the lows. But still I feel it may not improve much in future.

Just an observation. May be I am wrong.Would like to know your thoughts.
I can very well say that this is a great observation. :thumb:

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a1b1trader

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oops.. i mean daily TF
Bhai, we are left with 6 trading days only

Any way will let you know by Monday evening. :D

BTW
What will be the difference
As you asked for daily tf

See you in the evening
You didnt answer to my post.
Why you specifically want for daily TF
Will it make any difference, if I make my observation in my (any) time frame and didnt mention anything about it.
 

a1b1trader

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Bhai, we are left with 6 trading days only
we have one day enough to collapse 200 points down in nifty.
:D:D:D:D:D
Yes Kiran
You are right
One day is enough for 200 point collapse.

But that day will be based on fundamentals and not on technicals.
Moreover such days, do not come daily.
Come once in a while.
Isnt it.
 

cloudTrader

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Yes Kiran
You are right
One day is enough for 200 point collapse.

But that day will be based on fundamentals and not on technicals.
Moreover such days, do not come daily.
Come once in a while.
Isnt it.
This is true . The markets will very soon be getting nervous ahead of the final outcome of the elections .
 

a1b1trader

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This is true . The markets will very soon be getting nervous ahead of the final outcome of the elections .
Yes Leonid
But that will be sometime near 10th or after 15th of next month
And they want such a day in this month and that too by 23rd (April expiry day) :D
 

bpr

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Markets have changed. IMHO Nifty is not going to trend like earlier in future. Reason is the introduction of XX50 option strikes since last September. Big boys and institutions will have massive option exposures and they will try to defend these areas with their might.

Earlier with xx00 strikes they allowed the retail guys to play around within 100 points and provide liquidity. Now the play ground has shrunk to 50 odd points within which we have to play around. Volatility is cyclical and may be we are at the lows. But still I feel it may not improve much in future.

Just an observation. May be I am wrong.Would like to know your thoughts.
I have a counter observation to that. As nifty is touching 7000 assuming 6000 holds in coming years, Nifty now becomes a expensive instrument and so the swings will be more wild. meaning when ever it will trend it will trend higher.
If we approach 7.5k to 8k this phenomena will be more pronounced.

Why
1)because the lot size won't come down unless it reaches 10k
2) and in general the higher expensive instruments moves more because the same percentage move produce more movement in points.

So good for intraday traders and bad for option writers.
Again some crude observation. May be wrong.
 

amitrandive

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These days the market opens with a gap and goes sideways the whole day.More than 80-85 % of the days in a month are sideways. With the gap we try to trade it as a trend day and that is where the problem is....

If we assume that all days are sideways days and trade as sideways days till a day proves otherwise by flipping into the trend mode, we will do much better in our trades.

Smart_trade
Smart_trade Sir

This may be case with Nifty and Bank Nifty.So we must search for other stocks which are trending instead of continuously hitting our stop losses.
 

TradeJoker

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You didnt answer to my post.
Why you specifically want for daily TF
Will it make any difference, if I make my observation in my (any) time frame and didnt mention anything about it.
in ur first reply u asked me the duration of the fall i expected, hourly,daily,weekly etc. but i misunderstood that, ur asking for the TF, :)
 

LivetoTrade

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What is happening, why frequent demo trades on Nifty !!!
 
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