Day Trading Stocks & Futures

[poor_trader]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

One can push large volumes in Index Futures without affecting the price too much.It has excellent liquidity and depth. Stocks can be manupulated over a short period of time but Index Futures it is difficult to manupulate.

We trade stocks futures too like RIL,SBI,ICICI bank,TCS etc..but strictly stick to large cap nifty stocks. They have less erratic moves than their midcap brothers.

Smart_trade

100% true :clapping:.............this is called experience........That's why all masters prefer Forex!!!!:thumb:

 

[poor_trader]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

Hi ST,
could you please explain more about manipulation ? like who are the people doing it ? timeframes they do it in ? skill level involved in these things ?

Big fish traders...............:thumb:

 

[TradeJoker]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

Hi rajbhai, u were missing ? :

 

[poor_trader]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

Hi rajbhai, u were missing ? :

Will join after a week.........I am on holiday.........Busy with Thai girls.....:lol:

 

[Vertigo_1985]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

Big fish traders...............:thumb:

want to know more about them, any source or info ?

 

[TradeJoker]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

Will join after a week.........I am on holiday.........Busy with Thai girls.....:lol:

highly risky like bnf

 

[poor_trader]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

want to know more about them, any source or info ?

Contact Stock72....just kidding ........ok serious note I will PM you in this matter..........because SEBI also active in this thread!!!!!

 

[jagankris]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

One can push large volumes in Index Futures without affecting the price too much.It has excellent liquidity and depth. Stocks can be manupulated over a short period of time but Index Futures it is difficult to manupulate.

Smart_trade

Index Futures it is difficult to manupulate.


I thought it is always the otherways.

Index futures are more prone to manipulation because of the huge participation of the FII's and Market makers.
Options Volumes are several times that of the Index and hence highly manipulated.

DII's unfortunately are not available to counter their manipulation.

May be manipulation in terms of sudden price hike/fall may not be possible with Index but manipulation in terms of Sideways,Break out failures,Price action failures,Pattern failures and gaps are more prevalent in the Index than the stocks.

 

[poor_trader]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

Index Futures it is difficult to manupulate.


I thought it is always the otherways.

Index futures are more prone to manipulation because of the huge participation of the FII's and Market makers.
Options Volumes are several times that of the Index and hence highly manipulated.

DII's unfortunately are not available to counter their manipulation.

May be manipulation in terms of sudden price hike/fall may not be possible with Index but manipulation in terms of Sideways,Break out failures,Price action failures,Pattern failures and gaps are more prevalent in the Index than the stocks.

PK and DP missing .............nice to see Jagan bhai active.....

 

[whisky]

re: Day trading Nifty & Banknifty Futures

1) What are the data that are available to these market makers (manipulators) which are not available to us ?
2) Is it true that they can see the no of stops placed at a particular price level ?
3) Is it true that they can see if the orders are from FII - DII - Fellow Market makers - Retail ?
4)How do the market makers decide the opening price on a particular day ?
5)When do suddenly pull out liquidity - keeping the markets in a range and when do they decide to trend a day ?

These things they decide alone or put a room in five star hotel and plan .

One more important point 6) Is it true that they can see more than 5 Asks & Bids?