Discount Broker Comparison

bpr

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Zerodha Reduction in charges at a glance

NSE Futures (per Cr) 250 from 390 (now 3rd Lowest after RKSV,TSO)

NSE Options (per Cr) 5900 from 7900 (Lowest)

NSE Equity Intraday (per Cr) 325 from 390 (2nd Lowest after WC)

NSE Equity Delivery (per Cr) 325 from 390 (Lowest)

MCX Futures (per Cr) 310 from 440 ( 2nd Lowest after WC)

NSE Currency Futures (per Cr) 175 from 390 (4th lowest after RKSV,TSO,SAS)

NSE Currency Options (per Cr) 5100 from 6500 ( Lowest)

MCX-SX Currency Futures (per Cr) 170 from 390 (Ambiguous not enough Data)

MCX-SX Currency Options (per Cr) 4400 from 4500 (Lowest)
 
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bpr

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Download V2.43 Below
-Updated Zerodha reduction in charges
- Removed Asthatrade they are insignificant now taking valuable real estate.
- Modified RKSV columns to represent the Dream plan. Added notes for Pro/Ultimate/1947 plan.

Please note the comparison between the ultimate plan of RKSV with WC mayt be inaccurate as the RKSV's figure may be that of CO leverage where as the WC's figure are of MIS leverage. Will do further research and update accordingly.
If you notice any error or omissions please report I will get it rectified





 
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As I said in my previous post it is action time for Zerodha but never thought this will happen so soon. Very good move by Zerodha, before even anybody think of switching to RKSV Zerodha in action.

Creating a edge in business is one thing but retaining that edge is another thing.
Zerodha understands this better than anybody else.

For Us traders competition between RKSV and Zerodha is very good.
Lets both prosper and compete with each other and create more value to the traders.

I will update the brokerage calculator soon...
Hey BPR good job job done buddy :)

Move by RKSV & ZERODHA is really praiseworthy. SAS online has gone one step ahead of them by reducing brokerage charges in place. Don't know how they all are maintaining maintaining cost:confused:

I would like to share some insights of WC as well. I had visited their office in connection with owing full fledged Algo trading for personal use, which they were back testing for sometime now. I think its same system already in use by Mastertrust for MCX Exchange so it makes no sense to acquire the same.

But I would like to share some insights of their future plans. They gonna offer Free Demat Offer for lifetime to all of their existing and new clients free of cost and they are getting registered their company to local address of Haryana which is having least stamp duty charges, that will be charged to all their clients by default. A move by broker for the benefit of clients, we haven't seen earlier
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bpr

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Hey BPR good job job done buddy :)

Move by RKSV & ZERODHA is really praiseworthy. SAS online has gone one step ahead of them by reducing brokerage charges in place. Don't know how they all are maintaining maintaining cost:confused:

I would like to share some insights of WC as well. I had visited their office in connection with owing full fledged Algo trading for personal use, which they were back testing for sometime now. I think its same system already in use by Mastertrust for MCX Exchange so it makes no sense to acquire the same.

But I would like to share some insights of their future plans. They gonna offer Free Demat Offer for lifetime to all of their existing and new clients free of cost and they are getting registered their company to local address of Haryana which is having least stamp duty charges, that will be charged to all their clients by default. A move by broker for the benefit of clients, we haven't seen earlier
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WOW it will be hard to beat that.

Regarding Algo trading did not get what you are saying please elaborate.
 

bpr

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Critical Analysis
Initially RKSV said the 1947 plan is gone no longer available for new customer but latter changed their tone. Even though they will not openly market it anymore .This shows indecision which is always bad. Which equates to lack of confidence in their pro and ultimate plan.
I have renamed the column of RKSV to dream plan as it looks like it will be their main stream plan going forward. It is hard to stomach that any body will pay 4k per month for trading. for somebody who will shell out 4k per brokerage and they have to make may be 30 to 50 k profit per month to justify the price that means very huge account size 10 lakh and above so obviously the target audience becomes very far from the average joe retail trader.
The difference between PRO plan,ultimate plan and dream plan is intraday leverage that to very little which hardly justifies the price point.
Also another contradiction is the more bigger the trading account the less useful the extra leverage. A bigger account guy will hardly utlize the full intraday leverage think about it.

And again the Ultimate plans is 10k per month where as WC is providing 10k for lifetime unlimited plans(per segment). if such is the case then we need a lot of differentiating factors to justify the price.

if the plans are designed to offer more features which are not ready now may be then it was not the right time to launch such plans.

Coming to the Dream plan RKSV served a Ace(almost) and Zerodha replied with a back hand shot and now the ball is in their court. :)

enough ranting coming to the point.

For value segment for nse future
zerodha 20 @250
RKSV 20 @230 + 5 free trades

So clearly RKSV is winner. Again for those extreme value seeker who are ready to compromise on the brand

we have SAS 9 per trade @250
then we have TSO 15 per trade @240 Rest all don't come into picture.

note RKSV has the lowest TC in this segment

For value segment for nse option

Zerodha 20 @ 5900
RKSV 20@7100 + 5 free trades

Clearly Zerodha is the winner . Again for those extreme value seeker who are ready to compromise on the brand

We have SAS 9@6000 rest all not come into picture.

note Zerodha has the lowest TC in this segment
Unlimited Plans
for unlimited plans for retail players the baton is now passed to 3 players SAS,WC and TSO.
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Future brokerage war will be on bracket order, advanced trading platform, data feed , advanced charting , algorithmic trading ,service and other value added features. stay tuned..:cool:
 
WOW it will be hard to beat that.

Regarding Algo trading did not get what you are saying please elaborate.
Presently in India two type of Automated trading is available i.e. Semi automated and fully automated. Semi automated is being provided by most of the Indian brokers through Global Datafeeds such as Zerodha, RKSV & WC. Whereas fully automated trading is being provided by Mastertrust and Composit Edge among discounted brokers. Composit has a tie-up with Symphony for this and the system being used is called Symphony Presto. Now Master Trust has also started Fully automated trading for MCX only and using the plugin developed by the person who is associated with WC and they are in a position of offer something similar system free of cost to their customers. Unlike 'Semi Algo' for 'Fully automated' trading exchange permission is required. So its a matter of time for WC to have permission from exchange for Fully automated trading to their customers.

My Personal View : All Algo Trading plugins available in local Market is more or less USELESS.:D
 
Critical Analysis
For value segment for nse future
zerodha 20 @250
RKSV 20 @230 + 5 free trades

So clearly RKSV is winner. Again for those extreme value seeker who are ready to compromise on the brand

we have SAS 9 per trade @250
then we have TSO 15 per trade @240 Rest all don't come into picture.

note RKSV has the lowest TC in this segment

For value segment for nse option

Zerodha 20 @ 5900
RKSV 20@7100 + 5 free trades

Clearly Zerodha is the winner . Again for those extreme value seeker who are ready to compromise on the brand

We have SAS 9@6000 rest all not come into picture.

note Zerodha has the lowest TC in this segment
Unlimited Plans
for unlimited plans for retail players the baton is now passed to 3 players SAS,WC and TSO.
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Future brokerage war will be on bracket order, advanced trading platform, data feed , advanced charting , algorithmic trading ,service and other value added features. stay tuned..:cool:
I think WC management has already approved reduced transaction charges and it will be announced in their website soon. Also They gonna offer free account for all segments and Free lifetime DP for free of cost.

I am not an associate of WC. When they were discussing with their Website vendor regarding all these points, I were available in their office. Hence updating;)
 

bpr

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Presently in India two type of Automated trading is available i.e. Semi automated and fully automated. Semi automated is being provided by most of the Indian brokers through Global Datafeeds such as Zerodha, RKSV & WC. Whereas fully automated trading is being provided by Mastertrust and Composit Edge among discounted brokers. Composit has a tie-up with Symphony for this and the system being used is called Symphony Presto. Now Master Trust has also started Fully automated trading for MCX only and using the plugin developed by the person who is associated with WC and they are in a position of offer something similar system free of cost to their customers. Unlike 'Semi Algo' for 'Fully automated' trading exchange permission is required. So its a matter of time for WC to have permission from exchange for Fully automated trading to their customers.

My Personal View : All Algo Trading plugins available in local Market is more or less USELESS.:D
We have to wait and see what kind of plugin and what it can do or cannot and whether it can compete with symphony presto in functionality but definitely some good news.
In algo trading quality is more important than price because a minor quality problem can cost you much much more.
 
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