Going With The 60min Flow!!!

Which Futures do u all trade with real Money?

  • MiniNifty

    Votes: 28 40.6%
  • Nifty

    Votes: 50 72.5%
  • Aban

    Votes: 16 23.2%
  • L&T

    Votes: 18 26.1%
  • Hdil

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • JP asso

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • RIL

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • Relcap

    Votes: 11 15.9%
  • Suzlon

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • Educomp

    Votes: 8 11.6%

  • Total voters
    69
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rishig38

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Dear Saint,

Again niagra of profit....... in gold....

Thank you Saint for designing this system...... I salute your spirituality...


attaching chart... ...


dn jadeja
Thank god, that some one is trading GOLD with me using 60 min flow...its too bad that i got out and booked profits and didn't play with the rules...otherwise I would have raked in 1300 points so far with one entry without the adds...its all good...next time...
 
..sounds like you want to 'commercialise' the method ! Our suggestions would be to back off please....!
Dear Friends,

I am doing options trading since a long time and am a succesful options intraday and positional trader. I am also a member of the NSE and my company predominantly is a trading house for proprietary trades.

I have decided to spend some time in correlating this superb Saint 60 min flow system with my options experience to see what results I can offer.

In case any of the collegues here can provide a tabulated (or textual) data and timewise/ system generated signals on NF and (or) selected stocks , I will be happy to do the study and share my study results with all of you.

regards,
alok
also...why dont you share your vast successful experience and trading method with people here first...

also just to clear your doubts...this is a very democratic civilised friendly forum...people here are absolutely matured and wise...some of them are like true Monks...this method is for common people who have been doing hard works day & night..have struggled and on the way have been wounded many times and been healed by guiding forces of Angel...!

I think stopping of posting the SAR levels are showing the effects now ! Well done seniors ! :)
 
Dear Friends,

I am doing options trading since a long time and am a succesful options intraday and positional trader. I am also a member of the NSE and my company predominantly is a trading house for proprietary trades.

I have decided to spend some time in correlating this superb Saint 60 min flow system with my options experience to see what results I can offer.

In case any of the collegues here can provide a tabulated (or textual) data and timewise/ system generated signals on NF and (or) selected stocks , I will be happy to do the study and share my study results with all of you.

regards,
alok
Alok,
Even I am doing option trading since last 6 years. I am very successful option trader. But 60min flow and option trading are two completely different things. Just because previous PH taken out and we are long in 60min method does not mean we could buy call (because many other things needed to considered in option, as u know..i hope)
so if u want to combine these two things. better study 60min flow method and then using historical data get the trade for NF and stocks.
best of luck
regards
Nilaish
 

rh6996

Well-Known Member
I think it was Saint who mixed up the trades here Beethoven!!!! Your query would be more appropriate if addressed to Saint as to why the reversal was taken yesterday as per mini flow rules!!! There was no visually obvious Pivot here, though we got one PL by the close!!! But in haste we reversed as per WRB breakdown!!! I sincerely feel that Saint's decision was sudden!!
Its wrong even to accept whatever Saint writes as correct blindly!!! Do weigh it in your mind and see whether there is an "if" coming , a query coming!!! Problem is we accept it blindly and change our view accordingly, mould our responce also!!! (Saint no aspersion to your actions or views also not written to criticize you)!!! In all probabilites Saint wud be proved correct but friends how long do we continue to use him as a crutch!!! Saint says do this, we do it and then nod our head in agreement!!! The question raised by Inspire is MOST GENUINE and needs proper attention!!! Dont act in haste and accept that okay we shall do this in future too!! Most here have back tested as per Saionts rules, now howmany rechecked the historical data with this amended rule and what was the difference in the out put, the profit!!!

I might be totally wrong becauseut Saint might have seen that this WRB breakdown is working fine in 60 min.flow also in the past...though I did find that on a number of occasions the WRB got reversed much sooner and trading the Pivot would save us from a false trade!!! But I checked just casually and not throughly!!! I said : "Saints decision was sudden!!" because had Saint thought over it he would have posted the amended rule(s) the previous day when the market was off!!! But he mentioned it at the last minutes of the actual trade!!!
Ofcourse Saint shall be able to clear this, though no clarification is required!!!! If Saint says it works, it wil work, but let us also do our work of 'rechecking' by past analysis!!!
A rule change is a rule change and Iam no one to argue on it, but then my views are mine and have aired them knowing very well that the same shall antagonise a lot of people here but feel its all a part of learning!!

Many of us have removed the "I" from our trades but most of us are yet to remove "Saint" from our trades!!!

This is again an effort in that direction only!!!!

For once I think Saint has deviated from the rules!!! (Excuse me Saint for this view)

-Kanchan

Above is my post that brought some sarcastic responce from a few members and also Saint and also a few obnoxious posts and PM's from a few others.
I have also been given sermons about my language etc. One member even went on to comapre the said matter as that between a father and son.

Each and every one of the Posts by all including that of Saint and others in responce to my above post must be correct and may be I deserve to be treated that way. But something was nagging my mind and I read my Post atleast 25 times if not more. Even asked a few 'friends' here on the Forum to give their views about my language. Except for one very strong negative view and one view that said I could have toned down my language, all said that the post wasnt such to envisage such vigorous reaction.


Very first thing I would like to mention is about this sentence I wrote in my Post : (Saint no aspersion to your actions or views also not written to criticize you)!!! Saint took it in entirely different light, if any one at all can believe me, I wish to say," I meant exactly what I wrote."!!!!!!

I am trying to analyse my Post and rephrase it : My changed language is in Blue and bold.

I think it was Saint who mixed up the trades here Beethoven!!!! Your query would be more appropriate if addressed to Saint as to why the reversal was taken yesterday as per mini flow rules!!! There was no visually obvious Pivot here, though we got one PL by the close!!! But in haste we reversed as per WRB breakdown!!! I sincerely feel that Saint's decision was sudden!!
Do have a look at the original Post(s) to which I had responded
I am rephrasing the above part :
I think it was Saint who suggested this reversal, so it must be correct. We are probably overlloking some aspect. Let us ask Saint. The reversal was more like what is done in Mini Flow. No Pivot is there, not even a visually obvious one. We are sure to get a New lesson in reversal today after market by Saint.

Its wrong even to accept whatever Saint writes as correct blindly!!! Do weigh it in your mind and see whether there is an "if" coming , a query coming!!! Problem is we accept it blindly and change our view accordingly, mould our responce also!!! (Saint no aspersion to your actions or views also not written to criticize you)!!! In all probabilites Saint wud be proved correct but friends how long do we continue to use him as a crutch!!! Saint says do this, we do it and then nod our head in agreement!!! The question raised by Inspire is MOST GENUINE and needs proper attention!!! Dont act in haste and accept that okay we shall do this in future too!! Most here have back tested as per Saionts rules, now howmany rechecked the historical data with this amended rule and what was the difference in the out put, the profit!!!
Is it advisable that we accept what Saint says blindly w/o question.... if so then why is the talk about analysing the Past which has already been done by Saint. But yes the language when read again by me did sound a bit harsh. The following text would have been more appropriate :
My humble suggestion is that when ever Saint suggests some tactics change let us first examine the same by going through a few months historical charts and if that is working so well, if not let us put forward our quries for Saint to clarify...I am sure of one thing we do not see the charts in the same way as Saint see them. For us to understand his views fully it would be most advisable 'not to accept what Saint says blindly' by doing this we would not mean to discredit Saint, but rather reinforce the lesson of Saint. It is someting similar to learn something by rote and to understand something by getting the fundas clear. So we should strive to have a relook at charts after a change suggested by Saint. The question raised by Inspire is MOST GENUINE and needs proper attention!!! Before repeating this action in future why not have a relook at the historical charts to gain confidence in our actions.


I might be totally wrong because Saint might have seen that this WRB breakdown is working fine in 60 min.flow also in the past...though I did find that on a number of occasions the WRB got reversed much sooner and trading the Pivot would save us from a false trade!!! But I checked just casually and not throughly!!! I said : "Saints decision was sudden!!" because had Saint thought over it he would have posted the amended rule(s) the previous day when the market was off!!! But he mentioned it at the last minutes of the actual trade!!!
I might be wrong and Saint must have seen this strategy of WRB breakdown to work in 60 min. flow also. As always he must have checked the past before posting it here.
My eyeballing the chart did not give me confidence to use the strategy. I checked casually only hence my view in this regard is of little or no consequence.
We had a weekend gone by and would have been happy if Saint found some time in his already busy schedule to have posted in this regard earlier. It is quiet possible that he thought of this change in strategy at the very last moment.


Ofcourse Saint shall be able to clear this, though no clarification is required!!!! If Saint says it works, it will work, but let us also do our work of 'rechecking' by past analysis!!!
A rule change is a rule change and Iam no one to argue on it, but then my views are mine and have aired them knowing very well that the same shall antagonise a lot of people here but feel its all a part of learning!!
Ofcourse Saint shall be able to clear this, though no clarification is required!!!! If Saint says it works, he would not talk in air, he must have back checked before writing here. I am sure it works and will work in future too, but let us also do our work of 'rechecking' by past analysis!!! For nothing maybe but shall surely help us to use the wrb also with confidence.
A rule change is a rule change and am sure is done to enhence the returns, I should not argue on it without some substantial data to show that it does not work. But then my views are mine and have aired them to get views on my views from others.
I might antagonise a few people her, to whom I apologise but feel its all a part of learning!!


Many of us have removed the "I" from our trades but most of us are yet to remove "Saint" from our trades!!! This is again an effort in that direction only!!!!

Many of us have removed the "I" from our trades but most of us are yet to be able to trade in absence of Saint. Many are still comfortable to take a position only on confirmation from Saint. We should work hard to become independent. This is again an effort in that direction only!!!!

For once I think Saint has deviated from the rules!!! (Excuse me Saint for this view)
It seems to me that there has been some error on part of Saint in this trade or maybe I have overlooked some recent changes suggested by him, in any case the matter shall be clarified on hearing from him.
 

rh6996

Well-Known Member
My ultimate Post would have or rather should have read something like this :

I think it was Saint who suggested this reversal, so it must be correct. We are probably overlloking some aspect. Let us ask Saint. The reversal was more like what is done in Mini Flow. No Pivot is there, not even a visually obvious one. We are sure to get a New lesson in reversal today after market by Saint.

My humble suggestion is that when ever Saint suggests some tactics change let us first examine the same by going through a few months historical charts and if that is working so well, if not let us put forward our quries for Saint to clarify...I am sure of one thing we do not see the charts in the same way as Saint see them. For us to understand his views fully it would be most advisable 'not to accept what Saint says blindly' by doing this we would not mean to discredit Saint, but rather reinforce the lesson of Saint. It is someting similar to learn something by rote and to understand something by getting the fundas clear. So we should strive to have a relook at charts after a change suggested by Saint. The question raised by Inspire is MOST GENUINE and needs proper attention!!! Before repeating this action in future why not have a relook at the historical charts to gain confidence in our actions.
I might be wrong and Saint must have seen this strategy of WRB breakdown to work in 60 min. flow also. As always he must have checked the past before posting it here.
My eyeballing the chart did not give me confidence to use the strategy. I checked casually only hence my view in this regard is of little or no consequence.
We had a weekend gone by and would have been happy if Saint found some time in his already busy schedule to have posted in this regard earlier. It is quiet possible that he thought of this change in strategy at the very last moment.
Ofcourse Saint shall be able to clear this, though no clarification is required!!!! If Saint says it works, he would not talk in air, he must have back checked before writing here. I am sure it works and will work in future too, but let us also do our work of 'rechecking' by past analysis!!! For nothing maybe but shall surely help us to use the wrb also with confidence.
A rule change is a rule change and am sure is done to enhence the returns, I should not argue on it without some substantial data to show that it does not work. But then my views are mine and have aired them to get views on my views from others.
I might antagonise a few people her, to whom I apologise but feel its all a part of learning!!
Many of us have removed the "I" from our trades but most of us are yet to be able to trade in absence of Saint. Many are still comfortable to take a position only on confirmation from Saint. We should work hard to become independent. This is again an effort in that direction only!!!!
It seems to me that there has been some error on part of Saint in this trade or maybe I have overlooked some recent changes suggested by him, in any case the matter shall be clarified on hearing from him.
 

rh6996

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WOW...The Greatest Benefactor has achieved his goal.!!!

Let alone remove Saint from our Trades, he has removed from the Thread itself.:(:(
I simply pity poor souls like you, who just like to rejoice in posting cliches.
I never had the intention of antagonising Saint the way I ended up doing it. Yes it was a mistake but all you are doing is sprinkling salt on injury.

I still say we need to be independent of Saint, and that probably be the best 'compliment' to Saint.
 

rh6996

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People working so hard to put a spanner in the works :D
I alwats thought that I was the only one 'working hard' to put a spanner in the works, but your use of "People" suggests there are a few others too. I am not alone, though it is besides the point whether or not I am one and would not like to debate it. Your post is as distracting from the main theme.
 

rh6996

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Here's the qstn asked by Komal ...


And the answer by Saint...


Its not all of a sudden induced rule. I was looking at the 12.00 AM bar for the pivot formation... But the mistake which I made is that I calculated 2847-15 as SAR, but later Saint corrected it to 2858-15. Hope you got the answer...
Not at all similar to the controversy n=being discussed. Look for more. Next time post the chart with Date and tie also.
 

rh6996

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I just want to request rh6996 to plz forgive us & leave us all alone . who asked her to come & save us from anybody?

what we are doing is absolutely fine & don't want any help from her [atleast]

it is our shear bad luck that whenever we thought that now we are going well on our learning path. something will just come like" bolt from blue" & every thing just scattered away

hope all these dark cloud will scatter soon & we will get rays of sun again ..
To start : I am male, Kanchan Kumar. And just forget this wishful thinking that there was any effort to Save you or anyone else.
It was more to do with my choice of words.. they were mischosen though the content was correct. It is so simple, just ignore my posts so they dont bother you.

It is not your bad luck , it is your lacj of doing the hard work that has brought you to a stage to post such responce. Had you done your home work of assessing the last 2 years by the flow method, you would be sitting pretty unbothered by any posts by Saint for levels etc. You would be able to trade w/o Saint.
 
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