Going With The 60min Flow!!!

[rh6996]

What the heck has been going on in this thread! I am totally blown, a guy/gay/gal comes here and I dont know why comes out and suddenly vents out her whole frustation (which may be result of some poor trading results) on the very creator of this thread, who defied the traditional trading wisdom of not letting your winning strategies reach others.

He opened his heart and gave lesser mortals like me and many others over here strategies that can cost millions of dollars if sold like the books we have all over the places about Stock markets. He answered to the most stupid queries that a trader can ask ( e.g. what do you mean by 1 lot nifty??) with the most patient answers and not only once but many many times.

He first starts a thread to Teach us to fish. Then he finds that its not enough so he goes with us Fishing in our 60 MIN. FLOW thread and still there are some who cannot hold on to fishes well so he decides to even hand them the fishes by quoting the levels to sell & buy on 60 min. , but, alas, thats not enough for poor souls here. We torment him if after catching thousand fishes he just somehow misses the fish that we wanted. We cant tolerate even a single loss that happens to us not because of Saint but markets themselves. Strange I think even Jesus Christ was treated the same way by poor minded mortals.

I know of people in my neighbourhood who have lost lakhs in the crash of 2008, I taught the 60 min. method to them which Saint has taught us and you know what, these people have started making money and they thank me every day but, but, but we are different here, we wont thank Saint, we will crucify him with humiliating words.

All I would like to say is Well Done people, we have been able to keep up the record of a common man, we still kill Jesus Christ.

I have myself questioned Saint's trades many times but never his intent and if this thread gets closed in some days (it should) I will like to take my opportunity and thank Saint for all that he has done for us. Dont know how to put it but emotions are sweeping across me like strong winds and I hate to say but ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO END and here the end has been forced

Thanks

PJR, I knew my post would be taken in wrong light, my choice of words were wrong (irealise it now) but so are yours.
Had no frustration to vent.... your post reeks of frustration... frustration of loosing Saint.
No body denies what Saint has given but that does not mean his moves are Gods and cannot be questioned. Yes how that should be done should be well though over before just writing whatever. My error was not in 'what' i asked but 'how' i asked.

 

[ARMHM]

dear rh6996
Have you perfected yourself to be independant?

 

[rh6996]

....came back just now, and am horrified to read all the bullshit going on in this thread....

Asking questions has never been a problem here, and I lead here in asking the most silly and obvious questions....but, commenting on others!!!and that too the originator of the system!!! even a thankless ba..rd would think twice before doing that.

I got even more amazed reading Saint's reply....he still wants to come here and teach during the weekends!! are you made of steel or something Saint?? Even my aim is lower than where you are presently... seriously hats off to you. Wish if I could be of any use to you in this life..

Hats off reminds me of some lady here mentioning pants off.
Imagine that....and then comparing herself with Karnani Sir in the same breath.

So where do we go from here.....close this as Prabhjeet suggested or carry on in this marathon??? Let Saint decide that. But admittedly, whatever happens, learning for a lot of budding traders would be nipped in the bud.

Rakesh.

Rakesh, I am a male and the Pants off was initiatd by VVVV and not me. I was just responding to his post. Dont be in any doubt, more people here are for getting the levels , only a few are learning.

 

[rh6996]

I do not generally go with the 60 minutes flow, i try to go with the 60 week flow so i do not visit the thread very often. i was just curious why there are so many comments today and so came in here and have gone through most of the messages.

kanchan / rh6996, is wrong in saying that she removed the 'I' in the trade and waiting to remove saint from the trade. that is uncalled for. but she does not have the traits of a trouble maker. a healthy dose of skepticism and questioning is required in any learning process, so it is necessary to have members like kanchan in greater numbers in the forum.

it is my personal opinion that the forum would be more lively and interesting when we meet people with opposing views. saint can of-course choose to ignore kanchan and continue as usual. Saint's contribution and helping nature in the forum is not debatable and can not be denied by any one.

Kanchan, it is very easy to find small faults in everything and everyone, please go ahead and start a thread and spread some of your knowledge that is unknown to us, give us an opportunity to see what you have got and looking forward to discuss in your own thread.

Hello Sir, I dont know how you assessed that I have not removed 'I" from my trades. And when I say remove Saint from My trades I am honestly aiming for it....i wish to be able to take decisions for trades without continously refreshing the thread to find out the levels seen by me are correct or not!!!
Yes I know my post did seem to be the way it is interpreted, what is done cannot be undone, but i was sincerely had no intention of creating such a situaion. It wasnt an exercise to find faults with others and that too Saint.
As far as my knowledge is concerned, there are two things I accept very candidly : I do not have any special knowledge, if I had any I would not be here trying to enhance my meagre knowledge. Secondly :If I had any special knowledge, unlike Saint I would hold it close to my chest lest others benefit from it and it is the truth a bitter one though but thats the way I am, I am no Saint or anywhere near him.

 

[rh6996]

My goodness .. I dont understand whenever we failed to see the pivot why we start criticising the wise man who is making all effort to teach us.
Its just beacuse we took short because of failed breakdown and market bounced back . ..its just bcoz of the fear to make loss in current trade .. ...... if that is the case go and recall the profits that have been made thru this system ..
I bet after we took short if market would have travelled in favourable direction there would have been no useless noise.
Cmon guys if we cannot learn to throw out the emotions what else we can learn from him.

Failed breakout or otherwise, in our direction or loss making , one thing is sure , we did not see what Saint was seeing... my mistake I asked How Saint saw it..... my blunder, chose wrong words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rh6996]

Anyway,accepting all criticisms as a positive......meanwhile advice from my end:The kindest of words,the most genuine of emotions,....... put in the most caustic and sarcastic of ways ...... no use,isn't it?So careful when posting how things come across.

Saint

Learnt the lesson the hard way after putting so many to agony.
Sorry once again.

 

[beethoven]

Kanchan,

Our quest here is knowledge.

Let me ask you - now do you see the situation clearly of that day's trade or not? Do you still believe that Saint deviated from the rules given to us much earlier and that we did not have a situation before also where Saint had demonstrated clearly this type of pivot?

Now do you see what many of us saw that day taught by Saint? It was not something new and deviation on the spur of the moment.

If not then we can discuss with charts and examples.

Rest all is irrelevant and tragic to a very large extent.

But my friend, gentle language will propagate goodwill and generate much knowledge. Life is long and why make it take a disadvantageous position by using improper words which hurt.

Saint's knowledge is vast. I will never dream of using the type of language you used even if he makes some mistake (which I do not imagine he will ever do) after all he is human also and in consequence suffer some losses. Never - he is my Guru - and I will keep within my limits always.

Bee

 

[Pattel]

Buddy, not looking for business here. Focus is on prop trading and not retail clietelle. Thought people here on this board will be more mature and positive. Let others decide.

Good that you were not looking for business here. But as we mentioned before this is about futures, if you want to discuss about options please open your own thread and share what you got and i'm sure matrued and positive people here in this forum interested in options will contribute.

 

[saturdaykid2001]

Dear Friends,

I am doing options trading since a long time and am a succesful options intraday and positional trader. I am also a member of the NSE and my company predominantly is a trading house for proprietary trades.

I have decided to spend some time in correlating this superb Saint 60 min flow system with my options experience to see what results I can offer.

In case any of the collegues here can provide a tabulated (or textual) data and timewise/ system generated signals on NF and (or) selected stocks , I will be happy to do the study and share my study results with all of you.

regards,
alok

Dear Niftytrader2,

With your massive experience in options trading (both positional and intraday), I am sure you realize the importance of backtesting... and you also say that you are successful in what you do - so I am pretty sure again you can do the backtesting yourself if you understand the rules properly.

If you want to understand the rules, please go through all the important posts and ALL of us are pretty sure you will have something new to take home.

Please don't misconstrue my post as criticism. Please just bear in mind though, that the aim of the creator of this thread is to "teach people to fish" - rather than feed them fish.

So just like all of us my friend, respect him by learning to fish rather than looking for shortcuts.

with only the best intentions,

SK

 

[Pattel]

Learnt the lesson the hard way after putting so many to agony.
Sorry once again.

kanchan,
Good that you realized it. Everybody has questioned saint about so many different things here, and he has answered and cleared everyone's queries when asked in right spirit.

Saint gave the method, he gave the tweaks like 2 bar, gaps and filters. So if saint adds a failed breakout to the method, i would add that to my rules book, no questions asked. Doesn't mean that we just blindly follow saint, most individual here following this method has done his home work for all rules we have in this method. You should also realize that saint didn't come up with this method one day miraculously, but he has been following it before it came to this forum. Anything new added i trust it with the same way i did for the methods and tweaks.

Any stagnant method, market will quickly identify, so changes are always necessary. One failed trade doesn't mean saint has made mistake, anyways 60 min flow doesn't say that there will not be any failed trade.

I/We would be happy if you end this matter on this moment.

Thanks