how much return you expect from commodity market

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now i applied the nine hour time frame (540 minutes)for test check and it gave me two time frame one 10 am to 6 pm(one clear manuplation bar with no mixture) and second 6 pm to 11.30 pm(CLEAR TRADING BAR WITH NO MIXTURE)THIRD THEIR WAS NO CONSOLIDATION BAR WHICH WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR A POSITION TRADER,THIS TIME FRAME SATISFIED ALL CONDITIONS REQUIRED ,I WAS QUITE SATISFIED WITH THE RESULT .AFTER THAT I CHANGED TIME FRAME AT MECHNICAL TRADING SSTEM WITH TWO CLEAR BAR WITH NO CONFUSION AT ALL. AFTER THAT WHEN I APPLIED IT TO ALL THE NINE COMMODITIES COPPER/NICKEL/LEAD/ZINK /ALUMINIUM/GOLD/SILVER/N.GAS/CRUDE, IT GAVE ME PERFECT RESULT AT ALL THE ABOVE COMMODITIES,SO NOW I AM TRADING AT NINE HOUR TIME FRAME AND I AM QUITE CONFIDENT REGARDING WHIP SAW LESS TRADES IN NEAR FUTURE & TO REACH AT SOME OF LIFE TIME TARGETS!!!!
wow!!this is something of a holy grail.hope u will distribute the fruit among all your followers.
 

ayush2020

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now i applied the nine hour time frame (540 minutes)for test check and it gave me two time frame one 10 am to 6 pm(one clear manuplation bar with no mixture) and second 6 pm to 11.30 pm(CLEAR TRADING BAR WITH NO MIXTURE)THIRD THEIR WAS NO CONSOLIDATION BAR WHICH WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR A POSITION TRADER,THIS TIME FRAME SATISFIED ALL CONDITIONS REQUIRED ,I WAS QUITE SATISFIED WITH THE RESULT .AFTER THAT I CHANGED TIME FRAME AT MECHNICAL TRADING SSTEM WITH TWO CLEAR BAR WITH NO CONFUSION AT ALL. AFTER THAT WHEN I APPLIED IT TO ALL THE NINE COMMODITIES COPPER/NICKEL/LEAD/ZINK /ALUMINIUM/GOLD/SILVER/N.GAS/CRUDE, IT GAVE ME PERFECT RESULT AT ALL THE ABOVE COMMODITIES,SO NOW I AM TRADING AT NINE HOUR TIME FRAME AND I AM QUITE CONFIDENT REGARDING WHIP SAW LESS TRADES IN NEAR FUTURE & TO REACH AT SOME OF LIFE TIME TARGETS!!!!
boss some confusion here ... here you have given the same 2 bars but the time frame is different.., hope I have taken correctly.. but this one how we can implement in positional trade ?? or is this only intraday basis ??
 
Sir, which direction to trade silver and crude now...please guide

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Ravinder
silver is a short from 53008 leval,toda if 11.30 bar closes above 51763 short will be closed,other wise short will be carried for tommorow
crude first position long from 4087 and second long from 4187 average buing leval of two lot 4137,current position as per 6 o clock bar still long
long to be closed if 11.30 closing of crude come below 4216 other wise long of two lots will be carried for tommorow
 
boss some confusion here ... here you have given the same 2 bars but the time frame is different.., hope I have taken correctly.. but this one how we can implement in positional trade ?? or is this only intraday basis ??
there are two clear seprate bars one closing at 6 o clock and second closing at 11.30 pm to da,this is a pure positional trade sstem but u are free till six o clock,through out da u will not open lap top at six first bar will come if sistem said no out off the alreadi carried move either long or short is required to be closed then u will do nothing but will close the lap top ,now after that u will open lap at at 11.25 pm if sistem said close one long out of the nine u carring,u will close that long and go short in that same time and rest eight will carri as it is so u will again carr all the nine ,u will never close ani move u will be either long or short in all the nine commodities,if an doubt u can ask
 
boss some confusion here ... here you have given the same 2 bars but the time frame is different.., hope I have taken correctly.. but this one how we can implement in positional trade ?? or is this only intraday basis ??
wow!!this is something of a holy grail.hope u will distribute the fruit among all your followers.
dear zoozo
i alreadi promissed that all friends at thread will be with me in everi success of mine
 
Ashwani sir,

so you are saying we will be always (24 * 7) either long/short with all the commodities ? what if the market is in no trade zone ? i mean when there is no confirmed trend ?
dear vishumahajan,if you have gone through all posts of my thread,i have already explained support/resistance sistem with no mans land concept and furthur regarding confirmed and non confirmed trend,once you will read u will under stand that 95 % of the time market is in trend slow or fast 5% it is not their which is negligible,so we just follow trend,even if it is very slow but long we will be long and reverse if very slow but short,but we should be in trend,there is no trend is a lame excuse of half learned so called professionals.
thanks for the post and u can still clear any doubt you are most welcome( u can call it auto balancing also,if 5% of the time we prove wrong even then out of 10000/- profit 500(5%wrong decision)will be adjusted from 5% right and rest 90% will still be their so it is perfect risk reward !!!!
 
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My Bad...yes Ashwani sir, no doubt i have gone through the whole thread but i think instead of simply "going through the thread" is not going to put any medals..i admit i missed some important points (in spite taking the notes regularly !)

Anyways i will go through the same tonight itself.

Thanks for your clarification.I will come within a day or two to ask some problems i am facing in settings the indicators of trade tiger (older version).

Thanks once again for all your guidance to each one of us.You are like ENLIGHTENED TRADER ! :)
 

ayush2020

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there are two clear seprate bars one closing at 6 o clock and second closing at 11.30 pm to da,this is a pure positional trade sstem but u are free till six o clock,through out da u will not open lap top at six first bar will come if sistem said no out off the alreadi carried move either long or short is required to be closed then u will do nothing but will close the lap top ,now after that u will open lap at at 11.25 pm if sistem said close one long out of the nine u carring,u will close that long and go short in that same time and rest eight will carri as it is so u will again carr all the nine ,u will never close ani move u will be either long or short in all the nine commodities,if an doubt u can ask
Boss,
let us say in crude 10am-6pm high is 4200 and low is 4150. so how we will take the positions??

is it like this after 6pm above 4200 we will buy crude or below 4150 will go short?? if it is correct thn what will be our stop loss? and where we can add more number lots to our existing positions??

one more scenario im having doubt is let us say i have taken long position around 6pm and it has made high around 9 pm thn it came down some points.so we r loosing some profits here..how to minimize this kind of situations?
 
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