how much return you expect from commodity market

[ashwani chadha]

dont add new postion before close of consolidation bar of 12 o clock,during consolidation period chances of being caught on reverse side of the trend are quite high and this whip saw trades will never give u a big success in trading

from 12 o clock to 6 o clock is called manipulating time frame so12 to six o clock bar u can call manipulating bar,during this period u should hold previous moves with proper stop losses but dont participate in trading,dont close moves in consolidating time till stop loss is not trigered,it means the stop loss which u are using should be beond the range of one hour support and resisance manimulators,so that their manipulating moves should not impect trades which u hold till six o clock,when these moves are going to give u good profit and now six to 11.30 time period is trading time period when u are going to kill profits from the market. BEST OF LUCK FOR PROFITABLE TRADES

 

[ayush2020]

from 12 o clock to 6 o clock is called manipulating time frame so12 to six o clock bar u can call manipulating bar,during this period u should hold previous moves with proper stop losses but dont participate in trading,dont close moves in consolidating time till stop loss is not trigered,it means the stop loss which u are using should be beond the range of one hour support and resisance manimulators,so that their manipulating moves should not impect trades which u hold till six o clock,when these moves are going to give u good profit and now six to 11.30 time period is trading time period when u are going to kill profits from the market. BEST OF LUCK FOR PROFITABLE TRADES

thanx Dear Ashwani sir .. for explaining these things.. so as per this we need to trade when us market opens.. but i have seen some times it gives more whipsaws during 6---7 pm .how to handle those??

 

[Rajeevji]

Dear Ashwani,

You are a good teacher, sharing your personal insights into commodity markets gained over several years. It is not from books but you have certainly read all the books.

I have a commodity account for last one year but never traded. Now I can begin with your suggestion to start small, with something like gold gunia. First I am reading the full thread here and have completed till page 120.

Once I develop a workable MTS, I will share on this thread for your comments.

regards

Rajeev

 

[ashwani chadha]

Dear Ashwani,

You are a good teacher, sharing your personal insighted into commodity markets gained over several years. It is not from books but you have certainly read all the books.

I have a commodity account for last one year but never traded. Now I can begin with your suggestion to start small, with something like gold gunia. First I am reading the full thread here and have completed till page 120.

Once I develop a workable MTS, I will share on this thread for your comments.

regards

Rajeev

thank u dear for post and u are most welcome!!!
i still spent 15 hour in routine on reading and trading both at present i use two bar for trading and i will explain soon how and due to what reason i develop this two bar technique

 

[ashwani chadha]

Dear Ashwani,

You are a good teacher, sharing your personal insighted into commodity markets gained over several years. It is not from books but you have certainly read all the books.

I have a commodity account for last one year but never traded. Now I can begin with your suggestion to start small, with something like gold gunia. First I am reading the full thread here and have completed till page 120.

Once I develop a workable MTS, I will share on this thread for your comments.

regards

Rajeev

as a mature trader we can not use less then four hour time frame, less then four hour will be considered non professional

 

[ashwani chadha]

as a mature trader we can not use less then four hour time frame, less then four hour will be considered non professional

suppose i expect from u that start trading with a capital of five lakh on 1.04.2012 and give it a two fold increase,so convert it to ten lakh in 12 MONTH till 31.03.2013 then all mechnical trading sistem will work with even 20 faults in it, but if i expect from u ,start trading with 5000/- and convert it hundered fold in 12 MONTH periods from 1.4.2012 tp 31.03.2013 in five lakh then no mts with even single fault will work( SO FIRST I WILL EXPLAIN HOW U WILL DESIGN TIME FRAME IN MECHNICAL TRADING SISTEM WITH NO FAULT FOR HUNDERED FOLD INCREASE IN CAPITAL IN TEWELVE MONH PERIOD )

 

[Rajeevji]

......SO FIRST I WILL EXPLAIN HOW U WILL DESIGN TIME FRAME IN MECHNICAL TRADING SISTEM WITH NO FAULT FOR HUNDERED FOLD INCREASE IN CAPITAL IN TEWELVE MONH PERIOD

Dear Ashwani,

Thanks, I will follow carefully.

After reading first few pages of your thread, I visited Sharekhan on last Friday to open new account as they have good charts. It will be on in a week or so.

thanks

Rajeev

 

[ayush2020]

suppose i expect from u that start trading with a capital of five lakh on 1.04.2012 and give it a two fold increase,so convert it to ten lakh in 12 MONTH till 31.03.2013 then all mechnical trading sistem will work with even 20 faults in it, but if i expect from u ,start trading with 5000/- and convert it hundered fold in 12 MONTH periods from 1.4.2012 tp 31.03.2013 in five lakh then no mts with even single fault will work( SO FIRST I WILL EXPLAIN HOW U WILL DESIGN TIME FRAME IN MECHNICAL TRADING SISTEM WITH NO FAULT FOR HUNDERED FOLD INCREASE IN CAPITAL IN TEWELVE MONH PERIOD )

I wil also learn this ..plz explain ....

thanx

 

[Rajeevji]

...back tested as well and it does work 80-85% of the time...sometimes it does hit the 1st target but sometimes not...i dont want to take full target..will trade with a small profit margin....it can be used anywhere actually...in equity also it worked well...futures and call not tested...probably this weekend...need to see if we can use VIX anywhere and predict the moves....
for EOD different technique which ashwani suggested..it works pretty well...

Dear Cotton,

Which software do you use for back-testing? I spent several hours on Metastock available with a trainer in Chennai. Could not programme 'Stop Losses'. Even internet search did not help. Which is a good and easy software for back-testing?

regards

Rajeev

 

[ashwani chadha]

Dear Ashwani,

Thanks, I will follow carefully.

After reading first few pages of your thread, I visited Sharekhan on last Friday to open new account as they have good charts. It will be on in a week or so.

thanks

Rajeev

to open account with share khan is one off best decision, i am going to explain all technicals for hundered fold jump on share khan software only,i do not want that small invester to have some monthli burdun of paid software on their pocket and for clints technical soft ware off share khan is free and it is one off the best software also,i am also using share khan software for technicalls and not using paid software!!!!thanks for the post dear rajeev