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@Ashwani: I learned Stoch, MACD and RSI in September last year. KST looked very similar to RSI and that is why I did not pay much attention to it until ya mentioned in this thread to use KST as well.

I have only now started to pay closer attention to KST indications. I hope that I can become precise in TA with it.

All the best for achieving ya targets.

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I have recently noticed that (in trade tiger at least) while I pay attention to the red line for RSI, in KST it is the green line that is most important to read since it is the line that is the most immediately beneficial to read in KST?
one:in rsi and kst both nither green nor red line is important,always crossover of both red and green line is important
two:system of calculation of continutation of trend in kst is same of macd although its result comes 90% similar to rsi, reason being kst include the feature of macd but its inventer left the short coming of macd so it became a better alternative of macd in support of rsi,90 % of time it will support rsi 10 % OF TIME IT WILL CONTRADICT RSI TO WARN YOU TO BE MORE CARE FULL WHILE RELYING RSI SO YOU CAN USE BOTH AT A TIME
THIRD:NOW IF YOU USE MACD AS SUPPORTING INDICATOR TO RSI THEN 50% OF TIME MACD WILL CONTRADICT RSI ,SO EITHER YOU WILL DISCARD RSI OR MACD ,YOU CAN NOT USE BOTH AT A TIME,BUT YOU CAN NOT DISCARD RSI BEING MAIN INDICATOR ,SO YOU WILL HAVE TO REMOVE MACD BEING SUPPORTING INDICATOR FROM YOUR MECHNICAL TRADING SYSTEM,SO THAT IS WHY IT IS OUT DATED AND TRADER WITH UP DATE TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE HAVE REPLACED IT WITH KST,I THINK NOW MY POINT SHOULD BE QUITE CLEAR TO YOU(YOU CAN STILL CLEAR ANY DOUBT)
 

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one:in rsi and kst both nither green nor red line is important,always crossover of both red and green line is important
two:system of calculation of continutation of trend in kst is same of macd although its result comes 90% similar to rsi, reason being kst include the feature of macd but its inventer left the short coming of macd so it became a better alternative of macd in support of rsi,90 % of time it will support rsi 10 % OF TIME IT WILL CONTRADICT RSI TO WARN YOU TO BE MORE CARE FULL WHILE RELYING RSI SO YOU CAN USE BOTH AT A TIME
THIRD:NOW IF YOU USE MACD AS SUPPORTING INDICATOR TO RSI THEN 50% OF TIME MACD WILL CONTRADICT RSI ,SO EITHER YOU WILL DISCARD RSI OR MACD ,YOU CAN NOT USE BOTH AT A TIME,BUT YOU CAN NOT DISCARD RSI BEING MAIN INDICATOR ,SO YOU WILL HAVE TO REMOVE MACD BEING SUPPORTING INDICATOR FROM YOUR MECHNICAL TRADING SYSTEM,SO THAT IS WHY IT IS OUT DATED AND TRADER WITH UP DATE TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE HAVE REPLACED IT WITH KST,I THINK NOW MY POINT SHOULD BE QUITE CLEAR TO YOU(YOU CAN STILL CLEAR ANY DOUBT)
thanx ashwani sir for ur inputs.. but where we can find this indicator KST?? i didnt get in MT4 platform also..is there any name other than this??
 

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1 week of inactivity doesn't really make a thread a dead thread.

I do have a couple of queries:

-Are KST and Roc price oscillators? I think that the answer is yes
-What are the downfalls or benefits of using ADX alongside KST and RSI?

I'm now applying KST, RSI, ADX and Stoch on 30 (or 60) minute charts to analyse price trends.
 
1 week of inactivity doesn't really make a thread a dead thread.

I do have a couple of queries:

-Are KST and Roc price oscillators? I think that the answer is yes
-What are the downfalls or benefits of using ADX alongside KST and RSI?

I'm now applying KST, RSI, ADX and Stoch on 30 (or 60) minute charts to analyse price trends.
dear klewtar i have replied every querry asked at my thread so far and will try to reply all questions asked at my thread, but i am not getting time to write in genral regarding various trading system ,as from many days there was no query at my thread so i was also silent,i am opening this thread every day after 11.30 pm if some query is there i reply,other wise i close the thread and i am not opening it during trading hours from 10 am to 11.30 pm
one:eek:n mechnical trading system you can not adjust adx along with kst/rsi/stoch(at my mts i use kst/rsi/stoch all the three and no fourth indicator)
two:minimum time frame which you should use is four hour and may be on upper side six hour or eight hour(i am using eight hour time frame at present and at share khan if you will use then first bar will close at 4 o clock and second at 11.30, so after giving stop losses at 10 am when market open you are free,then you will open your lap top at 3.55 when first bar will close ,now you will change your stop loses again and at 4.10p m you are again free and third time you will open your lap top at 11.20 p.m,if some move is required to be closed you will close it,this way your duty at lap top will reduce from 13.5 hour to just 1 hour,these are the changes
which i did in last few days these days i am not live at lap top through out the day(but all the questions are welcomed)i asked one question few days back related to three basic type of trading that what indicator are used to distinguish among three type of trading except you no body needed to reply , so i take a judgement that all the viewers are expert now ,you are still taking interest, so i am replying all your queries.thanks
 
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nice to see u back mr.ashwani,i really thought that everybody gave up on the thread.what are your views on gold,i can sense a further downside,needed someone to second my opinion.can u help please?!
dear zoozu
gold is extremly week,i tried to gone short in gold yesterday but as you know just to set an example that every thing is possible in commodity market,this year i started trading in my trading account with just rs 4294/-as on 1.4.2011 with a target of giving it a jump of 100 fold or 10000 % return in a less then 365 days period,it means i will try to convert 4300/-to four lakh thirty thousand before 31.03.2012, i know this will prove to be a very eaisy target for me ,but next two targets which i will try to achieve ,in next two years are quite hard and may prove little bit difficult for me ,so these days i am still improving my leval as a trader so that i can achieve those two my FURTHUR life time targets also,i have still given an app five fold jump to 4300/-up to 30.06.2011 and yesterday i was already holding positions in lead and zink and alumini so balance in my trading account was not sufficient to short fourth lot of gold mini,now in these three months up to 30.06.2011 yesterday, i have already modified my mts to such leval,so that it can help me to achieve all my life time targets,from to day i will concentrate on trading only,so my capital will increase very fast from 1.7(to day) on wards towards a target of four lakh thirty thousand before 31.3.2012(FROM I.4.2011 I AM NOT TRADING FOR EARNING MONEY FROM COMMODITY MARKET THAT I CAN DO ANY TIME BUT I AM TRADING TO ACHIEVE SOME OF MY LIFE TIME TARGETS)AND UP TO 31.03.2014, I WILL JUST TRY TO ACHIEVE MY LIFE TIME TARGETS(FULL ONE YEAR FOR ACHIEVEING ONE LIFE TIME TARGETS AND SO THREE YEAR FOR ACHIEVING THREE TARGETS)i would like .when i will move towards my second target from 1.4.2012 at that time few of my friends at this thread should join me with a capital base of 5000/-as on 1.4.2012 to convert it to their first target of 100 fold means five lakh till 1.4.2013( TO HELP THEM TO ACHIEVE THIS TARGET ,I WILL DISCLOSE ONE OF MY MOVE EVERY DAY SIMULTANIOUSLY AT THIS THREAD WHEN I WILL TAKE AND WILL ALSO DECLARE WHEN I WILL CLOSE THAT MOVE(WITH THIS SINGLE MOVE EVERY BODY WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEIR TARGET) THANKS ZOOZU FOR YOUR POST( as i am now prepared so my 30.06 profit was more then 2k on a capital base of 4.3k with three lots in hand)
 
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