how much return you expect from commodity market

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ayush2020

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dear zoozu
gold is extremly week,i tried to gone short in gold yesterday but as you know just to set an example that every thing is possible in commodity market,this year i started trading in my trading account with just rs 4294/-as on 1.4.2011 with a target of giving it a jump of 100 fold or 10000 % return in a less then 365 days period,it means i will try to convert 4300/-to four lakh thirty thousand before 31.03.2012, i know this will prove to be a very eaisy target for me ,but next two targets which i will try to achieve ,in next two years are quite hard and may prove little bit difficult for me ,so these days i am still improving my leval as a trader so that i can achieve those two my FURTHUR life time targets also,i have still given an app five fold jump to 4300/-up to 30.06.2011 and yesterday i was already holding positions in lead and zink and alumini so balance in my trading account was not sufficient to short fourth lot of gold mini,now in these three months up to 30.06.2011 yesterday, i have already modified my mts to such leval,so that it can help me to achieve all my life time targets,from to day i will concentrate on trading only,so my capital will increase very fast from 1.7(to day) on wards towards a target of four lakh thirty thousand before 31.3.2012(FROM I.4.2011 I AM NOT TRADING FOR EARNING MONEY FROM COMMODITY MARKET THAT I CAN DO ANY TIME BUT I AM TRADING TO ACHIEVE SOME OF MY LIFE TIME TARGETS)AND UP TO 31.03.2014, I WILL JUST TRY TO ACHIEVE MY LIFE TIME TARGETS(FULL ONE YEAR FOR ACHIEVEING ONE LIFE TIME TARGETS AND SO THREE YEAR FOR ACHIEVING THREE TARGETS)i would like .when i will move towards my second target from 1.4.2012 at that time few of my friends at this thread should join me with a capital base of 5000/-as on 1.4.2012 to convert it to their first target of 100 fold means five lakh till 1.4.2013( TO HELP THEM TO ACHIEVE THIS TARGET ,I WILL DISCLOSE ONE OF MY MOVE EVERY DAY SIMULTANIOUSLY AT THIS THREAD WHEN I WILL TAKE AND WILL ALSO DECLARE WHEN I WILL CLOSE THAT MOVE(WITH THIS SINGLE MOVE EVERY BODY WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEIR TARGET) THANKS ZOOZU FOR YOUR POST( as i am now prepared so my 30.06 profit was more then 2k on a capital base of 4.3k with three lots in hand)
nice to see u back ... thanx and all the best for the targets !! if time permits for you then now also you can post here the calls !!! :thumb:
 
nice to see u back ... thanx and all the best for the targets !! if time permits for you then now also you can post here the calls !!! :thumb:
dear ayush.all traders follow app. 50 golden rules of trading,one of among these rules is NOT TO DISCLOSE YOUR MOVE,TILL IT IS NOT CLOSED,TO ANY BODY,HOW CLOSE HE MAY BE, TO YOU.it means if father and son are both perfect traders,even they both will not disclose their moves to each other,till it will not be closed but once the move will close they may or may not discuss with each other,but not before.NOW WHAT IS THE LOGIC BEHIND THIS RULE:logic is which i several time clarified at my thread,during trading hour you should not listen to any t.v channel,dont read news paper in the morning regarding stocks,dont consult any site at lap top which gives you tips,all these give you negitive impact and you can not follow technicalls,that is why i stoped opening thread in trading hours,suppose i am long in silver and some body ask me at thread (,i am short in silver and how i should handle it to day now it will give me negitive impact as his and mine trade are contradictory(but of course if some one is holding any trade at eod then he can ask from me its support/resistance,pivot point/stop loss to be used .next morning i will try to give reply to this query for that day,but not during market hours(if his direction of the move will be reverse ,i will warn him) THANKS AYUSH FOR YOUR POST
 

ayush2020

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dear ayush.all traders follow app. 50 golden rules of trading,one of among these rules is NOT TO DISCLOSE YOUR MOVE,TILL IT IS NOT CLOSED,TO ANY BODY,HOW CLOSE HE MAY BE, TO YOU.it means if father and son are both perfect traders,even they both will not disclose their moves to each other,till it will not be closed but once the move will close they may or may not discuss with each other,but not before.NOW WHAT IS THE LOGIC BEHIND THIS RULE:logic is which i several time clarified at my thread,during trading hour you should not listen to any t.v channel,dont read news paper in the morning regarding stocks,dont consult any site at lap top which gives you tips,all these give you negitive impact and you can not follow technicalls,that is why i stoped opening thread in trading hours,suppose i am long in silver and some body ask me at thread (,i am short in silver and how i should handle it to day now it will give me negitive impact as his and mine trade are contradictory(but of course if some one is holding any trade at eod then he can ask from me its support/resistance,pivot point/stop loss to be used .next morning i will try to give reply to this query for that day,but not during market hours(if his direction of the move will be reverse ,i will warn him) THANKS AYUSH FOR YOUR POST
thanx for explaining the rules ... :)
 
Hai,

what is EMA and SMA in futures trading
in 10 da sma we will add ten da price and then devide it with 10 and it will be sma
in 10 da ema if u dont have previous ema data then consider this sma as ema in start,now multipli this sma with nine add to da price then devide with ten it will be our ema,now repeat this process daili and u will get new ema everi d
this is called smoothing of price,which gives less weight to previous prices and more to current and we use ema for this smoothing
 
dear zoozu
gold is extremly week,i tried to gone short in gold yesterday but as you know just to set an example that every thing is possible in commodity market,this year i started trading in my trading account with just rs 4294/-as on 1.4.2011 with a target of giving it a jump of 100 fold or 10000 % return in a less then 365 days period,it means i will try to convert 4300/-to four lakh thirty thousand before 31.03.2012, i know this will prove to be a very eaisy target for me ,but next two targets which i will try to achieve ,in next two years are quite hard and may prove little bit difficult for me ,so these days i am still improving my leval as a trader so that i can achieve those two my FURTHUR life time targets also,i have still given an app five fold jump to 4300/-up to 30.06.2011 and yesterday i was already holding positions in lead and zink and alumini so balance in my trading account was not sufficient to short fourth lot of gold mini,now in these three months up to 30.06.2011 yesterday, i have already modified my mts to such leval,so that it can help me to achieve all my life time targets,from to day i will concentrate on trading only,so my capital will increase very fast from 1.7(to day) on wards towards a target of four lakh thirty thousand before 31.3.2012(FROM I.4.2011 I AM NOT TRADING FOR EARNING MONEY FROM COMMODITY MARKET THAT I CAN DO ANY TIME BUT I AM TRADING TO ACHIEVE SOME OF MY LIFE TIME TARGETS)AND UP TO 31.03.2014, I WILL JUST TRY TO ACHIEVE MY LIFE TIME TARGETS(FULL ONE YEAR FOR ACHIEVEING ONE LIFE TIME TARGETS AND SO THREE YEAR FOR ACHIEVING THREE TARGETS)i would like .when i will move towards my second target from 1.4.2012 at that time few of my friends at this thread should join me with a capital base of 5000/-as on 1.4.2012 to convert it to their first target of 100 fold means five lakh till 1.4.2013( TO HELP THEM TO ACHIEVE THIS TARGET ,I WILL DISCLOSE ONE OF MY MOVE EVERY DAY SIMULTANIOUSLY AT THIS THREAD WHEN I WILL TAKE AND WILL ALSO DECLARE WHEN I WILL CLOSE THAT MOVE(WITH THIS SINGLE MOVE EVERY BODY WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEIR TARGET) THANKS ZOOZU FOR YOUR POST( as i am now prepared so my 30.06 profit was more then 2k on a capital base of 4.3k with three lots in hand)
now i am going to discuss that to kill the huge profits from the market which time frame to be used

(rule one) never trade on semi finished bar what ever time frame u follow,it means if u are trading four hour bar,so if previous bar of four hour is complete at four o clock and new bar at 4.01 start then u will take decision on the basis of 4 o clock bar which is closed now
 
now i am going to discuss that to kill the huge profits from the market which time frame to be used

(rule one) never trade on semi finished bar what ever time frame u follow,it means if u are trading four hour bar,so if previous bar of four hour is complete at four o clock and new bar at 4.01 start then u will take decision on the basis of 4 o clock bar which is closed now
(rule two)u should not an intra da trader,to kill profits from the market either u should be a swing trader or end of da trader
 
(rule two)u should not an intra da trader,to kill profits from the market either u should be a swing trader or end of da trader
u should have perfect knowledge how 13.5 hour of commoditi market time is devided in three parts and as a result how we can save us from whip saw
10 am to 12 am bar u can call it consolidation bar,so take first decision of closing previous move after close of 12 o clock bar at 12.01 ,not before that
 
u should have perfect knowledge how 13.5 hour of commoditi market time is devided in three parts and as a result how we can save us from whip saw
10 am to 12 am bar u can call it consolidation bar,so take first decision of closing previous move after close of 12 o clock bar at 12.01 ,not before that
dont add new postion before close of consolidation bar of 12 o clock,during consolidation period chances of being caught on reverse side of the trend are quite high and this whip saw trades will never give u a big success in trading
 
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