how much return you expect from commodity market

[ashwani chadha]

no you can use it for intraday trading at five minute or one hour time frame,for using it for eod it require more expert knowledge so at present use 2.5 atr

trend of five mini lots after sat closing
lead confirmed short
zink confirmed short
alumini confirmed short
silver confirmed short
gold confirmed long

 

[cotton]

Ashwani Another question...SL calculation is it universal ..because if we apply the same to nickel then stop loss is too high..

 

[ashwani chadha]

Ashwani Another question...SL calculation is it universal ..because if we apply the same to nickel then stop loss is too high..

dear cotton,universal stop loss means ,this stop loss will work at all time frame,since this is not based on volatility ,but based on momentum only
if u will use eod stop loss it is too high.at this stage it is not viable to take so much risk,so i have given u universal stop loss,which is quite low,it will work till momentum dont break,but it will work on lead only.for monday normal stop loss 111/60 where as universal is 107only so use 107 as stop loss to protect your gains

 

[Rajeevji]

dear rajeev,ur answer is perfect. most advanced technique is most simple technique. it is based on just two lines.....

Dear Ashwani,

I been have trying out support & resistance lines of different types. Understanding so far: Averages of high/lows give too many trades. Short breakouts are no better. Other bands around averages appear to be better. Do these sound like normal findings & okay?

Next question is about three types of trading you had explained: move to move, correction to correction, and move to correction. You had said that move to move is the best.

In move to move, we hold the long during non-confirmed long, and confirmed long, and non-confirmed short. This way we remain in the long-term bull trend and also have some gain from confirmed short. But if the market is not in a long-term bull trend, which people say is mostly the case, then the overall winnings may be low in this type of trading. It appeared that holding the long in non-confirmed long and confirmed long would be more profitable in most markets. Am I wrong?

Kindly give your views on the above.

regards

Rajeev

PS: I am taking too much time to finalise my MTS.

 

[ashwani chadha]

Dear Ashwani,

I been have trying out support & resistance lines of different types. Understanding so far: Averages of high/lows give too many trades. Short breakouts are no better. Other bands around averages appear to be better. Do these sound like normal findings & okay?

Next question is about three types of trading you had explained: move to move, correction to correction, and move to correction. You had said that move to move is the best.

In move to move, we hold the long during non-confirmed long, and confirmed long, and non-confirmed short. This way we remain in the long-term bull trend( and also have some gain from confirmed short). But if the market is not in a long-term bull trend, which people say is mostly the case, then the overall winnings may be low in this type of trading. It appeared that holding the long in non-confirmed long and confirmed long would be more profitable in most markets. Am I wrong?

Kindly give your views on the above.

regards

Rajeev

PS: I am taking too much time to finalise my MTS.

all u have written is 100 % perfect !!!!except the line which i gave breakets this line should be like this ,we wil leave our long ,once it reach in confirmed short trend and there is no furthur hope for us as bulls have surrendered and we are part of bulls pool

 

[ashwani chadha]

all u have written is 100 % perfect !!!!except the line which i gave breakets this line should be like this ,we wil leave our long ,once it reach in confirmed short trend and there is no furthur hope for us as bulls have surrendered and we are part of bulls pool

(1) move to move trading is real position trading
(2)this is the technique of position trading where we dont leave our position during correction
(3)fiobonacci retracement can be up to 70 % OF PROFIT GAINED(rounded off to 70 for simple calculation teaching)
(4)trade one profit 20000/-
(5)retracement 70 % losss 14000/-(it is a correction,so ignored no action taken)balance profit 20000-14000=6000
(6)move touched its lower support--so---position two added
(7)now move re gained its original trend from lower support---which is long
(8)profit of trade two 30000/-
(9)profit of trade one 6000+30000=36000
(10)total profit 30000+36000=66000
(11)retracement again started
(12)this time after retracement we will add third trade
(13)WHEN move will close we will be having 10 ---10--10---10--10-positions in hand
(14)at that time profit will be in lakhs not in thousands(THIS IS CALLED REAL POSITION TRADING)
(15)real position trading dont give return in %, BUT IT GIVES RETURN IN MULTI FOLD
(17)INVESTED 10000/- RETURN IN MOVE 10 FOLD-SO TEN THOUSAND CONVERTED TO 100000/-PROFIT OF SINGLE TRADE 90000/-THIS IS HOW MOVE TO MOVE TRADING WORK !!!!(ALL THE CONCEPTS OFF THIS TECHNIQUE ARE FROM MINE UP COMING BOOK-TO BE PUBLISHED SOME WHERE IN 2015)

 

[ashwani chadha]

Dear Ashwani,



Kindly give your views on the above.

regards

Rajeev

(PS: I am taking too much time to finalise my MTS.

)

DEAR ,THERE ARE 50 APP BASIC PRINCIPAL OF TRADING
REMEMBER ONE OUT OF THOSE 50 IS
S M A R T E R ( U ) A R E , L O N G E R ( I T ) T A K E S !!!!!!!!!
smart people dont take step,till not sure that the step is 100 % strong and will be in a position to hold it,but once step is taken ,never require to take it back !!!!!

 

[Rajeevji]

(1) move to move trading is real position trading
(6)move touched its lower support--so---position two added
(11)retracement again started
(12)this time after retracement we will add third trade
(15)real position trading dont give return in %, BUT IT GIVES RETURN IN MULTI FOLD
(17)..!!!(ALL THE CONCEPTS OF THIS TECHNIQUE ARE FROM MINE UP COMING BOOK-TO BE PUBLISHED SOME WHERE IN 2015)

Dear Ashwani,

Thanks & Regards

Rajeev

 

[ashwani chadha]

(1) move to move trading is real position trading
(2)this is the technique of position trading where we dont leave our position during correction
(3)fiobonacci retracement can be up to 70 % OF PROFIT GAINED(rounded off to 70 for simple calculation teaching)
(4)trade one profit 20000/-
(5)retracement 70 % losss 14000/-(it is a correction,so ignored no action taken)balance profit 20000-14000=6000
(6)move touched its lower support--so---position two added
(7)now move re gained its original trend from lower support---which is long
(8)profit of trade two 30000/-
(9)profit of trade one 6000+30000=36000
(10)total profit 30000+36000=66000
(11)retracement again started
(12)this time after retracement we will add third trade
(13)WHEN move will close we will be having 10 ---10--10---10--10-positions in hand
(14)at that time profit will be in lakhs not in thousands(THIS IS CALLED REAL POSITION TRADING)
(15)real position trading dont give return in %, BUT IT GIVES RETURN IN MULTI FOLD
(17)INVESTED 10000/- RETURN IN MOVE 10 FOLD-SO TEN THOUSAND CONVERTED TO 100000/-PROFIT OF SINGLE TRADE 90000/-THIS IS HOW MOVE TO MOVE TRADING WORK !!!!(ALL THE CONCEPTS OFF THIS TECHNIQUE ARE FROM MINE UP COMING BOOK-TO BE PUBLISHED SOME WHERE IN 2015)

gold is long and rest all the eight are short at EOD at present

 

[cotton]

gold is long and rest all the eight are short at EOD at present

Thanks Ashwani..I missed today to short another Lead at 106...was traveling back to home