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dear kt100/trade jack,
as far as my system of trading nifty on end of day basis is concerned i just concentrate on six things
ONE:END OF DAY SUPPORT
TWO:END OF DAY RESISTANCE
THREE:END OF DAY SUPPORT CUM RESISTANCE PIVOT POINT
FOUR:END OF DAY TRAILING STOP LOSS
FIVE:SPEED OF THE MOMENTUM(ACCURATE SPEED OF MOMENTUM OF LAST TRADING DAY ,WHOSE END OF DAY BAR IS CLOSED)
SIXTH:AND FOR SECOND VIEW(to know how small investor are going to handle nifty)
EITHER OF THE TWO INDICATORS
EITHER RSI OR KST(KNOW SURE THING) AND SOME TIME BOTH
to be continued for trailing stop loss of nifty from first feb on ward on day to day basis
Dear Sir,

How do you calculate step 5 i.e. Speed of the mometum. And how do you use RSI & KST in your strategy?

thanks & rgds,
Deepak
 
Dear Sir,

How do you calculate step 5 i.e. Speed of the mometum. And how do you use RSI & KST in your strategy?

thanks & rgds,
Deepak
dear dn1406,my first request is open Google feed rsi/kst indicator and from various sites try to under stand how these two indicator are recommended to be used.
NOW TRY TO UNDER STAND HOW I AM TAKING HELP OF KST FOR TRADING
WE WILL TAKE THE CASE OF COPPER,WHERE ONE OF THE VIEWER DID MISTAKE OF GOING SHORT IN COPPER.
OPEN EOD CHART OF FEB FUTURE COPPER
feb one ---use kst indicator on chart-eod bar is green(current position in copper in morning was short) but kst line above zero line ,no decision taken
feb two-eod wide red bar but kst line below zero-next day will think of going long
feb three--lower resistance 413/10 -gave buy trigger of 413/10 ,once price crosed 413/10 short closed long taken,and 413/10 resistance become support
 
dear sir,

how do you calculate step 5 i.e. Speed of the mometum. And how do you use rsi & kst in your strategy?

Thanks & rgds,
deepak
no formula was developed so far ,to calculate the accurate value of one momentum,but i have developed a mathematical formula to calculate the accurate value of one momentum,at this stage i can not disclose it.
But as an alternative to one momentum,you can USE.35 atr at a default value of 14 period,from the support,to reach at your trailing stop loss on last eod closed bar(and you can use any perfect support system)
 
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date /support / value of one momentum / trailing stop loss for next day
31/01 5103 - 28 = 5075
01/02 5128 - 21 = 5107
02/02 5163 - 23 = 5140
03/02 5196 - 22 = 5174
NOW TRAILING STOP LOSS FOR LONG TRADE IN NIFTY ON 6/2 WILL BE 5174 ,WHICH WE WILL GIVE ON 6TH FEB MORNING AND THEN WE WILL JUST SHIFT OUR STOP LOSS EVERY DAY MORNING AND WE WILL NOT OPEN TRADING WINDOW DURING THE DAY TILL STOP LOSS IS NOT TRIGGERED OR WE WILL CLOSE THE TRADE IF WE WILL GET PERFECT EXIT TRADE SET UP,WHEN WE WILL COME TO KNOW IT IS A PERFECT EXIT SET UP,THEN ON 3.25 WE CAN CLOSE OUR TRADE,BUT AFTER SUCH A LONG MOMENTUM NORMALLY WE ALWAYS WAIT FOR OUR STOP LOSS TO HIT
ENTRY SYSTEM:eek:n 1st Feb pivot support was 5191,so we give buy trigger of 5191 once ,it was triggered, we were in the trade(HERE WE HAVE ENTERED IN THE TRADE APP ONE MONTH AFTER THE TRADE WAS OPENED)
what ever stop loss is moving on up side ,every day,we are locking that much profit in nifty
SO NOW ON MONDAY WE WILL LOCK 5174-5140=34X50=1700 Rs on one lot of nifty(we have considered nifty Feb future)
yesterday lower support nifty 5242 less value of one momentum 25 points=trailing stop loss of nifty feb future to day5217
profit locked today
today stop loss 5217-yesterday stop loss 5174=43 rs X 50(one lot nifty)=2150 RS
 
dear dn1406,my first request is open Google feed rsi/kst indicator and from various sites try to under stand how these two indicator are recommended to be used.
NOW TRY TO UNDER STAND HOW I AM TAKING HELP OF KST FOR TRADING
WE WILL TAKE THE CASE OF COPPER,WHERE ONE OF THE VIEWER DID MISTAKE OF GOING SHORT IN COPPER.
OPEN EOD CHART OF FEB FUTURE COPPER
feb one ---use kst indicator on chart-eod bar is green(current position in copper in morning was short) but kst line above zero line ,no decision taken
feb two-eod wide red bar but kst line below zero-next day will think of going long
feb three--lower resistance 413/10 -gave buy trigger of 413/10 ,once price crosed 413/10 short closed long taken,and 413/10 resistance become support
Good morning!

Thank you very much...
 

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dear dn1406,my first request is open Google feed rsi/kst indicator and from various sites try to under stand how these two indicator are recommended to be used.
NOW TRY TO UNDER STAND HOW I AM TAKING HELP OF KST FOR TRADING
WE WILL TAKE THE CASE OF COPPER,WHERE ONE OF THE VIEWER DID MISTAKE OF GOING SHORT IN COPPER.
OPEN EOD CHART OF FEB FUTURE COPPER
feb one ---use kst indicator on chart-eod bar is green(current position in copper in morning was short) but kst line above zero line ,no decision taken
feb two-eod wide red bar but kst line below zero-next day will think of going long
feb three--lower resistance 413/10 -gave buy trigger of 413/10 ,once price crosed 413/10 short closed long taken,and 413/10 resistance become support
i think in mt4 platform this KST is nt present ...
 
did i miss the entry? Ashwini sir, i could not understand the entry.. was it at the touch of the pivot point, or after resistance was broken on the upside.
missed this trade, could you please tell us at the exact time to take the next trade pls.
really dont want to miss the next trade setup

thanks
dear kt 100 ,the last entry which system generated was on first feb at 5191 level.after that system has not generated any fresh entry in nifty,as after that price never touched eod pivot support after first feb.
entry rule is once price go below pivot support give buy trigger ,when price will move further on the down side,pivot support will also move on the down side so you will go on reducing your buy trigger with respectable gap till your buy is not triggered.i will explain the alternative buy strategy shortly which all viewers can understand
 

ayush2020

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dear kt 100 ,the last entry which system generated was on first feb at 5191 level.after that system has not generated any fresh entry in nifty,as after that price never touched eod pivot support after first feb.
entry rule is once price go below pivot support give buy trigger ,when price will move further on the down side,pivot support will also move on the down side so you will go on reducing your buy trigger with respectable gap till your buy is not triggered.i will explain the alternative buy strategy shortly which all viewers can understand
Boss as per eod what is view on crude ,silver...??
 
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