My Nifty/Mini-Nifty Positional trade logs

Can Stochastics indicator alone be used for positional trading?


  • Total voters
    50

summasumma

Well-Known Member
Lets see if nifty attempt to touch that upper resistance line or not in next few trading days...
it jumped above the upper resistance line :)
There has to be some consolidation in this area 5520 to 5560 and the leftout gap-filling in next few trading days.
but anyways lets stick to what stochastics says...holding long.



Lets see if i still regret later for booking little early...
Indeed booked a way early... but no regrets.
 

summasumma

Well-Known Member


(15,3,1) came down but still > 90.
(21,1,1)/(8,1,1) came down but still > 80 in OB zone.
All other stochs went UP.

Holding Long [email protected]: ...5616

Lot of ppl are thinking that this is the point where trend-reversal is happening(including me :D).
But our system atleast didn't give us EXIT signal(or SAR) now. So lets stick to the stochs plan and see whats coming...
 

prabhsingh

Well-Known Member
Summa,

Just a query.Since you take position/square off your position as end of day approaches i.e might be between 03:15 to 03:28.What if all the damage has been done before that and you dont get an opportunity to exit.What will you do under such circumstances.
 

summasumma

Well-Known Member
Summa,

Just a query.Since you take position/square off your position as end of day approaches i.e might be between 03:15 to 03:28.What if all the damage has been done before that and you dont get an opportunity to exit.What will you do under such circumstances.
In the case you have mentioned, there is no escape in this system. I have to bear the damage. Thats the price im paying for spending only last 5-10minutes in the trading day so as to help me in positional trading even when im working.

Im an individual who is working and can't trade fulltime/intraday. I still remember those days when i burnt my fingers trying to do fulltrime/intraday trading while doing my work(funny, isn't it :D ). Lateron, over the time i realized that there is no point of doing something which my position won't allow me to do and i can't become millionaire in short-time. Now I started feeling better than before in this way of trading...

But when i saw ur question i can can foresee that this stochastic method might dry my account in high volatile zigzag market due to the fact that im exiting in last 5mins when all the damages are done. This method works great in trending market(for that matter,any method, i guess) in NF. But for sideways movements, im still working on a way(using past-data) to come out of position with lesser loss atleast so that overall performance will be better.
 

prabhsingh

Well-Known Member
In the case you have mentioned, there is no escape in this system. I have to bear the damage. Thats the price im paying for spending only last 5-10minutes in the trading day so as to help me in positional trading even when im working.

Im an individual who is working and can't trade fulltime/intraday. I still remember those days when i burnt my fingers trying to do fulltrime/intraday trading while doing my work(funny, isn't it :D ). Lateron, over the time i realized that there is no point of doing something which my position won't allow me to do and i can't become millionaire in short-time. Now I started feeling better than before in this way of trading...

But when i saw ur question i can can foresee that this stochastic method might dry my account in high volatile zigzag market due to the fact that im exiting in last 5mins when all the damages are done. This method works great in trending market(for that matter,any method, i guess) in NF. But for sideways movements, im still working on a way(using past-data) to come out of position with lesser loss atleast so that overall performance will be better.
What i feel is for positional and for trader who want to be bit safe they can avoid trading in sideway movement market.For e.g during events like QE3,Monetary policy,elections etc which can impact complete Nifty rather than individual stocks/sectors its best to stay away during sideway movements or play defensive and with complete care for e.g go for Straddle/Strangle strategies in case of Options.
 

summasumma

Well-Known Member
What i feel is for positional and for trader who want to be bit safe they can avoid trading in sideway movement market.For e.g during events like QE3,Monetary policy,elections etc which can impact complete Nifty rather than individual stocks/sectors its best to stay away during sideway movements or play defensive and with complete care for e.g go for Straddle/Strangle strategies in case of Options.
Strangle is the exact thing im working on to handle sideways market.
Btwn strangle works best when its 1 sided-move(i believe). Previously i used to go long in strangle and wait for big move in 1 direction. But due to market zigzag movements within a range eats my premium and eventually in loss.
Now started thinking that earning money in options is best done by eating its premium using time-decay and thus thinking about short-strangle in sideways move.

Also I don't go with events like elections etc...and always look only technicals. Thus i am trying to foresee the sideways market using:
- distance between (21,1,1) and (8,1,1)
- distance between (32,9,1) and (21,9,1)
- flat movement of (32,9,1)
 

summasumma

Well-Known Member


15,3,1 went down but still > 90
811, 2111 came down but still > 80
The remaining stochs showing steady UP move till now.

Holding Long [email protected]: ...5612

Point is, down move will be obvious only when the fast-stochs 811,2111 making a strong down move and comes out of OB zone. Not like the weak move it gave today where both came down by 1-2 points. This strong move might happen tomorrow also in which case i might lose some points.

Similar requirement is there for (15,3,1) also where it needs to cross down 3291, 2191(or atleast on of them from above). If you have noticed, (15,3,1) stochs is almost a direct replication of nifty price movement.
 

Similar threads